[Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Sat Mar 21 19:08:17 PDT 2009
Not yet, but I do intend to.
At 6:34 PM -0500 3/21/09, kamal deka wrote:
>It is the people who can create change for which autonomy should not be a
>pre-requisite.A totally new brigade of leaders/a network of dedicated
>individuals can help creating public awareness in this regard.Did you read
>the article " Land of Whiners"? I sent that article to Assamnet under the
>title " Crybaby"
>
>On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> At 6:07 PM -0500 3/21/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>
>>> Those, who fell in love with the concept of full autonomy hook,line and
>>> sinker,should tell us first as to how on earth they would convert Assam
> >> into
> >> an Utopian state,once the autonomy is granted.
>>>
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>> *** Why aspire for utopia ? Much less will do. Question is how will even
>> that 'much-less' come about from more of the same? Shouldn't the
>> deductive-logicians be able to tell us :-)?
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>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >A course of fundamental deductive logic must be taught to those who
>>>>
>>>>> believe
>>>>> that there will be a complete change in the behaviour of the Assamese
>>>>> people
>>>>> only when Assam gains full autonomy.Shouldn't we set our house in order
>>>>> first before striving to attain ideal goals?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *** That should inspire us then to ask WHAT will help change such
>>>> behavior?
>>>> If one uses that deductive logic , the answer that should stare one in
>>>> the
>>>> face, unless explained/spelled out to be something different, will be:
>>>> More
>>>> of the same!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now that ought to bring one to senses.
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>>>> At 10:18 PM -0500 3/20/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These are the folks,who now style themselves as pro-talk fraction of the
>>>>> ULFA,rolled over to Bangladesh to launch attack against their own
>>>>> people
>>>>> and mowed down a vast number innocent civilians,including women and
>>>>> children,by short-circuiting their killing machine.And these are the
>>>>> very
>>>>> people,who snuffed so many innocent Biharis ( read Indian citizen) out
>>>>> of
>>>>> their lives for no fault of theirs,are now blabbering about the
>>>>> presence
>>>>> of
>>>>> Bangladeshis in Assam.These are the very folks, who set the state
>>>>> ablaze
>>>>> by
>>>>> involving in destructive activities,are trying to act as
>>>>> fire-fighters.The
>>>>> people,true to their type, must be living in a land inhabited only by
>>>>> hypocrites.The old Bangla adage " Bhooter mukhe Ram nam" ( Devil
>>>>> quoting
>>>>> scriptures) can aptly be applied to this tribe.What prevents them from
>>>>> asking those Assamese leaders,who choose to remain steadfast in their
>>>>> opinion that there are no Bangladeshis in Assam?
> >>>> A course of fundamental deductive logic must be taught to those who
>>>>> believe
>>>>> that there will be a complete change in the behaviour of the Assamese
>>>>> people
>>>>> only when Assam gains full autonomy.Shouldn't we set our house in order
>>>>> first before striving to attain ideal goals?
>>>>> KJD
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >Would it not be a total Alice-in -Wonderland to expect the people of
>>>>>
>>>>>> Assam
>>>>>> >to behave responsibly all of a sudden only after full autonomy is
>>>>>> achieved?
>>>>>> >Can you boast of a single city in Assam which is clean and filled
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> >amenities which is purely a state subject in which Delhi can't and
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> >poke its nose?
>>>>>> >Wouldn't it be foolishness to expect someone to run before being able
>>>>>>
>>>>> >>> to
>>>
>>>> >walk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I couldn't agree more. In the past, I have always expressed (in these
>>>>>> columns) that state autonomy would be a good thing for Indian states.
> >>>>> But,
>>>>>> alongwith such new found liberties also come new found
>>>>>> responsibilities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such calls for full autonomy merely amount to yet another round of
>>>>>> 'feel-good' stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Ram
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:40 PM, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > One of the oft-repeated urban myths that sometimes pops-up in
>>>>>> conversation
>>>>>> > even among many educated, well meaning Assamese is that India as a
>>>>>> nation
>>>>>> > is
>>>>>> > a British creation. The argument goes roughly as follows - India is
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> > artificial entity. It was only the British that created the idea of
>>>>>> India
>>>>>> > as a single nation and unified it into a political state. Note that
>>>>>>
>>>>> >>> the
>>>
>>>> > concept of nationhood is based on the idea shared by a set of people
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> > they constitute a nation. This idea or feeling may be based on
>>>>>> common
>>>>>> ties
>>>>>> > of a people based on their culture, common descent, language,
>>>>>> religion
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > > other such attributes. The state constitutes a group of people
>>>>> inhabiting
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>> > specific territory and living according to a common legal and
>>>>>> political
>>>>>> > authority. The modern nation-state, as it exists today, *is a new
>>>>>> > development for the entire world*, and not just for India. Medieval
>>>>>> Europe,
>>>>>> > for instance, was divided politically into many small
>>>>>> principalities,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > boundaries and sovereignties of which changed frequently.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Similarly, Africa and South America mostly constitute of state
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > boundaries
>>>>>
>>>>> > carved up by colonial rule. In short, if we take the legitimacy of
>>>>>> current
>>>>>> > nation-states on the basis of centuries of common continuous
>>>>>> political
>>>>>> rule
>>>>>> > over the same geographical boundary and inhabited by the same
>>>>>> people,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> > practically no country on the planet meets this criteria. Simply
>>>>>> put,
>>>>>> > shifting nature of political kingdoms and their boundaries over the
>>>>>> > centuries legitimize virtually no country in its present form.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Turning my attention towards autonomy demand,let me raise the
>>>>>> following
>>>>>> > questions.
>>>>>> > Would it not be a total Alice-in -Wonderland to expect the people of
>>>>>> Assam
>>>>>> > to behave responsibly all of a sudden only after full autonomy is
>>>>>> achieved?
>>>>>> > Can you boast of a single city in Assam which is clean and filled
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> > amenities which is purely a state subject in which Delhi can't and
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> > poke its nose?
>>>>>> > Wouldn't it be foolishness to expect someone to run before being
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > walk?
>>>>>> > KJ Deka
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:16 AM, ULFA Pro-talk <ulfa.protalk at gmail.c
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > Dear Sir,
> >>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Historically and socially, Assam have no affinity with India and
>>>>>> > > nationalism in the north-east had a different context altogether.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> > > Assamese very strongly resented the British occupation of the Ahom
>>>>>> > > territory. Between 1828 to 1857 Assamese led by the erstwhile
>>>>>> prince's
>>>>>> > > revolted thrice. The Assamese having lost all their earlier
>>>>>> battles
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > > prayer and petitions having failed, decided to join Indian
>>>>>> National
>>>>>> > > Congress(INC). The congress never considered northeast within the
>>>>>> > national
>>>>>> > > scene. The Assamese joined the INC volunteerly and the INC entered
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > > plains of Assam only on invitation. The hills remain unconnected
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > > unaffected by the slogan.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Indian independence infact did not mean freedom and liberty for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > > Assamese people. It was mere transfer of power without a break
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > > imperial past. The Indian stepped into the shoes of alien whether
> >>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > > administration, industry, trade or commerce. Despite being the
>>>>>> largest
>>>>>> > > producer of Tea, Oil Assam remains one of the poorest and
>>>>>>
>>>>> >>> industrially
>>>
>>>> > > backward regions. The colonial mode of exploitation still very
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> > prevails
>>>>>> > > in Assam making it into a colonial hinterland. In the last 61
>>>>>> years
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> > > Indian independence, the problem of illegal immigrants has been
>>>>>> > deliberately
>>>>>> > > neglected and encouraging infiltration of foreign nationals by
>>>>>> indian
>>>>>> > > political leaders irrespective of any political party for their
>>>>>> vested
>>>>>> > > interests. In the next 20 years, the Assamese community will be
>>>>>> reduced
>>>>>> > to a
>>>>>> > > minority and the foreign nationals will become socially and
>>>>>> politically
>>>>>> > > dominant. Therefore, we strongly beleive that a full regional
>>>>>> autonomy
>>>>>> > with
>>>>>> > > regional federalism will ensure the protection of socio-economic
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > > political rights of self-determination of the indigenous and
>>>>>> ethnic
>>>>>>
>>>>> >>> > people.
>>>
>>>> > > For your information, in response to our menifesto and with
>>>>>> confidence
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > > co-operation of indigenous and ethnic people we are in the process
>>>>>> > > of forming a broad based common platform in order to achieve
>>>>>> long-term
>>>>>> > > solutions to the various issues along with the serious issue of
>>>>>> foreign
>>>>>> > > nationals.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Finally, we would once again request you to kindly go through our
>>>>>> > menifesto
>>>>>> > > carefully.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Thanking you,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Regards,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Jiten Dutta
>>>>>> > > General Secretary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > > > ULFA ( Protalk )
>>>>>
>>>>> > >
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