[Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Fri Mar 27 06:19:25 PDT 2009
So the big questions are ????
Might I suggest that they are:
A. HOW to reduce the inflow, if not stop it altogether?
B. Distributing those already in to other parts of the country
that claims Assam as its colony ? Like
How the British took Indians to Kenya and to Fiji.
So where are the righteous Indianistas clamoring for it to be DONE?
At 10:21 PM -0500 3/26/09, kamal deka wrote:
>The crux of the matter is unabated massive infiltration.
>Alright,those who have already made their way illegally into Assam should
>not be displaced.But why must Assam alone shoulder the burden of harbouring
>tens of thousands of illegal Bangladeshis?Why can't they be distributed on
>proportionate basis to other states?
>In the light of ongoing influx,Is the solution entailing " learn to live"
>a defensible one ? " Learn to live with them" for how long?Till the tipping
>point is reached?
>For those who are unfamiliar with the idiom, the tipping point means any
>small change may not have any effect until critical mass is formed.Any
>change thereafter,however small,will have a dramatic effect.
>KJD
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>On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Alpana B. Sarangapani <
>absarangapani at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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>> I agree completely that nobody should be displaced. But new influx needs to
>> be stopped.
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>> As long as Kashmir like situation does not occur in Assam, everybody should
>> live together happily (ever after). I really mean that.
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>> > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:22:57 -0700
>> > From: dilipdeka at yahoo.com
>> > To: assam at assamnet.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
>> >
>> > That is true. But the first reality is whether (we) recognize that
>> B'deshis
>> > coming into Assam :
>> > (a) are illegal YES
>> > (b) Should they be sent back? YES BUT CAN YOU?
>> > (c) Are we comfortable having them around: because they only occupy char
>> and
>> > useless land (where no Assamese will tread), and only take up jobs that
>> no
>> > Assamese will do? PROBABLY NOT TODAY, TOMORROW IS ANOTHER ISSUE.
>> > (d) Should our "human' sensitivities go to the extent of displacing
>> Assamese
>> > from their chars, to make sure our illegal guests are comfy? ABSOLUTELY
>> NOT. ARE THERE ASSAMESE SETTLERS ON CHARS? BANGLADESHIS ON THEIR ARRIVAL
>> > DO NOT DISPLACE LOCAL PEOPLE. THEY OCCUPY GOVT LAND. WHEN THEY SAVE MONEY
>> THROUGH HARD WORK, THEY LOOK FOR BETTER PROPERTY AND THE
>> > LOCALS SELL TO THEM.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>> > To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <
>> assam at assamnet.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:09:43 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
>> >
>> > >It is not a question of right or wrong anymore. It is agreed that they
>> do
>> > not have the right to encroach.
>> > >It is about the reality. How does Assam and the Assamese people survive
>> in
>> > the reality of massive settlement of Bangladeshis?
>> >
>> > That is true. But the first reality is whether (we) recognize that
>> B'deshis
>> > coming into Assam :
> > > (a) are illegal
>> > (b) Should they be sent back?
>> > (c) Are we comfortable having them around: because they only occupy char
>> and
>> > useless land (where no Assamese will tread), and only take up jobs that
>> no
>> > Assamese will do?
>> > (d) Should our "human' sensitivities go to the extent of displacing
>> Assamese
>> > from their chars, to make sure our illegal guests are comfy?
>> >
>> > >Are you suggesting that the settlers should be terrorized so that they
>> go
>> > back to Bangladesh?
>> >
>> > In fact, if Assamese are not careful, people may be terrorized, but it
>> will
>> > probably be B'Deshis getting rid of Assamese from Assam.
>> >
>> > --Ram
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka <dilipdeka at yahoo.com
> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Let me butt in.
>> > > It is not a question of right or wrong anymore. It is agreed that they
>> do
>> > > not have the right to encroach.
>> > > It is about the reality. How does Assam and the Assamese people survive
>> in
>> > > the reality of massive settlement of Bangladeshis?
>> > > Are you suggesting that the settlers should be terrorized so that they
>> go
>> > > back to Bangladesh?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________
>> > > From: kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>> > > To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
>> > > <assam at assamnet..org>
>> > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:43:33 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
>> > >
>> > > So, you are trying to justify that since bangladeshis are landless
>> > > farmers,they have the the inherent right to cross the border and grab
>> our
>> > > land.Is there any other explanation? Do tell.
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > At 9:21 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Here is what you wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > *** Really? Omigosh!!!
>> > > >
>> > > > But wait--does that mean I made the argument attributed to me:
>> > > >
>> > > > " the state of Assam is
>> > > >> obligated to allow them to move freely across the border and provide
>> > > them
>> > > >> with the land for cultivation. ?
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > *** I was explaining WHY B'deshis leave their own homeland to
>> unwelcome
>> > > > places, like Assam. It was NOT I who asked the question
>> > > >
>> > > > ",what does Assam have so much in abundance to render her so
>> generous?"
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Does that ring a bell?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> "" B'deshis are overcrowded. Most of them are agrarian,
>> subsistence
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> farmers. To survive they need land. But not enough of it is there
>> for
>> > > >>>> everyone. So they come into Assam and the contiguous regions,
>> because
>> > > >>>> there
>> > > >>>> still is public land where they can eke out a living. Often it is
>> > > land
>> > > >>>> others won't settle in, like the 'chars', or other perennial
>> flood
>> > > >>>> plains.
>> > > >>>> OR inaccessible mountains. Whatever."
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >> KJD
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>> *** Where or when did I make that statement is the big question.
>> > > Perhaps
>> > > >>> you will point that out!
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> *** Anyway, we are waiting with bated breath to hear how you
>> expect
>> > > the
>> > > >>> problem to be resolved :-).
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> At 7:41 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Wunderbar! Congratulation! You have just hammered out a permanent
>> > > >>>> solution
>> > > >>>> to this vexing problem.Full marks for the explanation.Since,most
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>> >> Bangaladeshis are rural-based landless farmers,the state of
>> Assam
>> > > is
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> obligated to allow them to move freely across the border and
>> provide
>> > > >>>> them
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>> >> with the land for cultivation.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> Next step----do away with the Immigration service from the face of
>> > > this
>> > > >>>> earth!!
> > > > >>>> I am certainly left speechless.
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Chan Mahanta <
>> cmahanta at charter.net>
>> > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> At 4:43 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> >> T he theory of " privation of Bangadeshis" propounded by you
>> > > really
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>> tops
>> > > >>>> >> my
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> hilarity chart.Or was it an attempt on your part to slip a levity
>> > > into
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>> discussion!
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>> **** Glad I could provide something where you could find humor.
>> The
>> > > >>>>> tenor
>> > > >>>>> was getting awfully strident.
>> > > >>>>> But I was entirely serious. People do not stream into unwelcome
> > > > >>>>> environments unless there is an overwhelming need. B'deshis are
>> > > >>>>> overcrowded. Most of them are agrarian, subsistence farmers. To
>> > > >>>>> survive
>> > > >>>>> they
>> > > >>>>> need land. But not enough of it is there for everyone. So they
>> come
>> > > >>>>> into
>> > > >>>>> Assam and the contiguous regions, because there still is public
>> land
>> > > >>>>> where
>> > > >>>>> they can eke out a living. Often it is land others won't settle
>> in,
>> > > >>>>> like
>> > > >>>>> the
>> > > >>>>> 'chars', or other perennial flood plains. OR inaccessible
>> mountains.
>> > > >>>>> Whatever.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> B'deshi privation is not a THEORY. It is a fact. And I won't
>> make
>> > > fun
>> > > >>>>> of
>> > > >>>>> human beings struggling to survive, even though they may not be
>> my
>> > > >>>>> people.
>> > > >>>>> My first and foremost identity is the human one, like it should
>> be
>> > > for
>> > > >>>>> all
>> > > >>>>> of us. The world would be a better place when it is so..
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> >The old saying ' an enemy within home is more treacherous and
>> > > >>>>> pernicious
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> than the one without" can be applied appropiately to our
>> present-day
>> > > >>>>>> politicians.Why then blame others?
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>> >>>>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>> **** OK, fair enough. So how are you planning or hoping to get
>> rid
>> > > of
>> > > >>>>> the
>> > > >>>>> enemy -within and replace it with whom you can find common
>> cause?
>> > > >>>>> Where
>> > > >>>>> does
>> > > >>>>> the enemy-within gets its power from?
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> **** I looked for the solution, recommendations. But there was
>> none.
>> > > >>>>> Is
>> > > >>>>> it
>> > > >>>>> because you cannot imagine it or do you want somebody else to
>> find
>> > > it
>> > > >>>>> for
>> > > >>>>> you :-)?
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Why on earth should anyone expect an Assamese to burn midnight
>> oil
>> > > >>>>> thinking
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> about " privation of Bangadeshis",while he himself deals with
>> the
>> > > >>>>>> human
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>> >>>> vagaries for years?
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> What can one expect from the state govt.whose very chief minister
>> (
>> > > >>>>>> read
>> > > >>>>>> Tarun Gogoi ) once said that the Congress is opposed to the
>> > > harassing
>> > > >>>>>> of
>> > > >>>>>> genuine Indian citizens in the name of scrapping the IMDT Act,
>> and
>> > > >>>>>> that
>> > > >>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>> detection of foreigners should not be left to the whims of
>> police
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> >> officers.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> Quite right,Mr.Chief minister-it should be left to the
>> machinations
>> > > of
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> vote-bank politicians!!! Yet, after a couple of decades,the
>> apex
>> > > >>>>>> court
>> > > >>>>>> of
>> > > >>>>>> India had flushed that piece of Black legislation down the
>> commode
>> > > >>>>>> because
>> > > >>>>>> it was not Constitutional.
>> > > >>>>>> The old saying ' an enemy within home is more treacherous and
>> > > >>>>>> pernicious
>> > > >>>>>> than the one without" can be applied appropiately to our
> > > > present-day
>> > > >>>>>> politicians.Why then blame others?
>> > > >>>>>> Have the Americans been able to stem the flow illegal
>> immigrants?
>> > > >>>>>> No,they
>> > > >>>>>> haven't.But they,unlike us,don't live in a cloud-cuckoo-
>> land.The
>> > > >>>>>> Americans
>> > > >>>>>> are not sitting idly thinking that the problem will vamoose by
>> > > itself
>> > > >>>>>> one
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> >> fine day.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> WHERE ARE RAJEN KOKAIDEW/SALEH KOKADEW/SARANGAPANI? WHAT'S YOUR
>> TAKE
>> > > ON
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> THIS?
>> > > >>>>>> Kamal
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Chan Mahanta <
>> > > cmahanta at charter.net>
>> > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> At 9:31 AM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> One should stuff that " privation of Bangladeshis" argument
>> where
>> > > >>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> sun
>> > > >>>>>>>> does not shine.
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> *** OK , so it be placed! Question then would be if they
>> come to
>> > > >>>>>>> Assam
>> > > >>>>>>> for its generosity? Is that it?
>> > > >>>>>>> Is it a believable proposition? I do realize however that it
>> is
>> > > a
>> > > >>>>>>> hyperbole train that has gone a couple of stations too far
>> :-).
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> I don't yet comprehend the issue at work here.One,what is the
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> meaning of "illegal"?I had thought that it was something not
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> sanctioned
>> > > >>>>>>>> by
>> > > >>>>>>>> the laws of any sovereign state.Two,are we supposed to sit
>> back
>> > > and
>> > > >>>>>>>> twiddle
>> > > >>>>>>>> our thumbs while the illegals outnumber us?
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> *** No that is not the ONLY interpretation of the notion I
>> put
>> > > >>>>>>> forth.
>> > > >>>>>>> But
>> > > >>>>>>> let us tackle the question:
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> "--are we supposed to sit back and twiddle our thumbs while
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>> illegals
>> > > >>>>>>> outnumber us? "
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Since I don't have a neat little answer like 'round them up
>> and
>> > > >>>>>>> kick-them
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> > out' or anything akin to that, what IS your solution? What
>> do
>> > > you
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> propose
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> or recommend be done? And WHY is it not being done the way you
>> see
>> > > as
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>> right way ? Or WHO do you think or expect WILL do it your way?
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> To day,my mother,brother and I
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> occupy a house in a plot of land.Tomorrow,if Martians took
>> over
>> > > the
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> >> remaining part of the land,we will be living in that
>> > > compressed
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> space.Why
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> should anyone allow that to happen?
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> *** Very touching argument no doubt. Even though I would like
>> to
>> > > >>>>>>> pretend
>> > > >>>>>>> to be left speechless, dare I mention that the law of the land
>> > > ought
>> > > >>>>>>> not
>> > > >>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>> allow such trespass and confiscation of your ancestral
>> property?
>> > > Or
>> > > >>>>>>> is
>> > > >>>>>>> that
>> > > >>>>>>> too much to ask from the mighty Indian democracy as practised
>> by
>> > > its
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> >>>>> minions
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> in Assam?
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Obviously the problem is a tad bit more complicated, isn't it?
>> So
>> > > >>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>> question the thinking person must raise is HOW to control the
>> > > >>>>>>> influx,
>> > > >>>>>>> so
>> > > >>>>>>> that the immigrants cannot take over the land, or become part
> > of
>> > > >>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>> voting
>> > > >>>>>>> citizenry, while still being able to come and perform seasonal
>> or
>> > > >>>>>>> otherwise
>> > > >>>>>>> limited time span services for which there IS a DEMAND? For IF
>> > > there
>> > > >>>>>>> was
>> > > >>>>>>> no
>> > > >>>>>>> such demand, the rate of migration would not be as strong.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Indian govt. knows it too, as do its minions in Assam. But
>> WHAT
>> > > have
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> >>>>> they
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> done about it? Can anyone in his right mind even hold out a
>> remote
>> > > >>>>>>> hope
>> > > >>>>>>> they will, if they had not lifted a finger in all these
>> decades?
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> That is WHY Assam needs independence--or at least a full
> > autonomy,
>> > > >>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>> put
>> > > >>>>>>> in place a SUSTAINABLE system that will stanch the flow, even
>> > > >>>>>>> though
>> > > >>>>>>> we
>> > > >>>>>>> know it cannot be entirely stopped.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Of course, there must be some checks and balances.It is the
>> > > bounden
>> > > >>>>>>> duty
>> > > >>>>>>> of
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> the state govt.to ferret out such infiltrators.If ration
>> cards
>> > > and
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> voters
>> > > >>>>>>>> identity cards can be issued to those illegal aliens to
>> enrich
>> > > >>>>>>>> their
>> > > >>>>>>>> vote-bank,why can't they issue multi-purpose identity cards
>> > > >>>>>>>> especially
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> >>>> in
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>> the border regions?
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Assam is already overpopulated,can she afford added burdens ?
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> *** Why don't you tell us ? And see above.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> By the way,the Americans had the harshest immigration policy
>> till
>> > > >>>>>>> 1962.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> *** And has it stemmed the influx of illegal immigrants?
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Chan Mahanta <
>> > > cmahanta at charter.net
>> > > >>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> At 8:09 PM -0500 3/21/09, kamal deka wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> To compare Assam with the USA as far as immigration issue is
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> concerned,will
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> be as good as comparing apples with oysters..
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> *** Not at all!
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> The failure on part of the USA
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> to curb the influx of illegals does not mean that Assam
>> should
>> > > >>>>>>>>> allow
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> Bangladeshis to cross the border freely till the indigenous
>> > > people
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> are
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> completely outnumbered.If the vast, resourceful and thinly
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> populated
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> countries like the USA and Australia can have stringent
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> immigration
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> laws,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> *** Of course they can and they do have stringent
>> immigration
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> laws.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> But
>> > > >>>>>>>>> then why is there such a huge illegal immigration problem in
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>> USA?
>> > > >>>>>>>>> Australia is different--the oceans surrounding it makes
>> illegal
>> > > >>>>>>>>> border
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> > crossing difficult .
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> what does Assam have so much in abundance to render her so
>> > > >>>>>>>>> generous?
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> **** It is not about Assam's abundance but B'Desh's
>> privation.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> That
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> simple.
>> > > >>>>>>>>> Assam and the contiguous
>> > > >>>>>>>>> region still has land and that is a huge incentive to
>> migrate
>> > > for
>> > > >>>>>>>>> those
>> > > >>>>>>>>> who
>> > > >>>>>>>>> have none.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> There must be checks and balances.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> **** Tell us about it. So how has India performed on
> > delivering
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> on
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> those
>> > > >>>>>>>>> checks and balances so far?
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Dilip and Dil Deka <
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> dilipdeka at yahoo.com
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> For whatever it is worth, this letter from Chandan Mahanta
>> has
>> > > my
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> support..
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I have been trying to convey the same message over the
>> years.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Holding onto the guns with a sullen face
>> and
>> > > >> not talking
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> anyone
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> including the people in Assam will not result in a
>> solution.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Persistent
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> discussion and deliberation are the only viable
>> paths.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> * It is impossible to seal a border where natural
>> > > barriers
>> > > >>>>>>>>> do
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> not
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> exist. Assam will have to learn to live with the
>> Bangladeshi
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> problem
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> even if
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> >>>> Assam becomes autonomous or a sovereign country.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from
>> around
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> world
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> <
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> assam at assamnet.org>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: ulfa.protalk at gmail.com
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:34:21 AM
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of
>> > > Assam/3
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends:
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> During the past several years, we here in assamnet debated
>> > > over
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> over again, your movement and your struggles for an
>> > > independent
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Assam. Over the years it became abundantly clear to me
>> that
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> most
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> our friends here in this forum, in spite of their
>> training,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> education
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and accomplishments, are quite uninformed about the
>> reasons
>> > > for
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> your
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> taking to arms in pursuit of independence for Assam.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >We the pro-talk group
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >temporarily suspending the armed struggle & strongly
>> > > advocating
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> demand
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >democratic process to bring a peaceful and political
>> solution
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Assam-India's conflict and clashes between the ethnic
>> groups
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> build
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>> up
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> >a peaceful and prosperous Assam along with a united powerful
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> India.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> **** Here it is important for you to explain why and how
>> > > Indian
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> democracy has not performed , how your successive
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 'democratically'
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> elected governments were neither responsive nor able to
>> > > respond
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> your needs that ultimately led you to give up on the
> > promise
>> > > of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Indian democracy and finally, out of desperation , led to
>> your
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> taking
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to arms.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Why it is important to explain is that MOST of our people
>> are
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> quite
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ignorant of these issues. The idea is to generate
>> awareness
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> among
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>> > the population and to mobilize INFORMED public opinion.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I realize it is a lot of work. But there is no short-cut to
>> it.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> **** You wrote about "temporarily suspending the armed
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> struggle--".
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Does that mean that you might
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> return to armed struggle? If so, should you not also
>> explain
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> under
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> what circumstances you may consider resorting to armed
>> > > struggle?
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> That should send a signal to GoI and GoA that you are
>> serious
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> about
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> your wish to attempt to forge a political solution, but if
>> it
>> > > is
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > frustrated or resisted by the governments in power, you
>> may
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> have
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> return to the armed struggle, which, by all indications
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> people
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Assam ( the thinking ones anyway) do not want.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Not that I am one who believes in threatening anyone as a
>> good
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> way
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> start a negotiation for attaining a political solution to
>> a
>> > > long
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> enduring conflict. But considering the history of your
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> adversaries'
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> sincerity and their ability or willingness to effect
>> political
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> administrative reforms that are direly needed in Assam and
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> surrounding region, you have little leverage
>> left to
>> > > >> engage them
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> in
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> serious dialogue, other than a concern for a resumption of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> violence,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> however feeble now.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> The only hope for something positive and constructive will
>> be an
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> outpouring of public opinion. That could be effected if you
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> clearly
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> explain what you see as the problems and how they could
>> be
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> resolved
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> by what you propose.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> As you have already noticed right in this forum, there will be
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> those
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> who will opposed anything that they perceive as reducing
>> > > Indian
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> controls over Assam's future, including contradicting
> > their
>> > > own
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> loudly proclaimed and roundly repeated positions. And they
>> are
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> just
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the tips of the icebergs of the establishment in
>> Assam,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> something you
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> must be well aware of.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> Therefore it is of critical importance for you to :
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> A: Clearly spell out what you see as problems, item by
>> item.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> B: Explain how what you propose will help resolve them.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> You must do so in simple language, understandable by ordinary
>> > > people
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> ( avoid the jargon of professionals). And then go
>> disseminate
>> > > it
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> among the populace. Ultimately it is a matter of
>> persuasion.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> One thing you must be realistic about is the issue of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Bangladeshis
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Assam: It is not something you, or your
>> ex-comrades-in-arms
>> > > who
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> are
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> still fighting or the government of Assam, never mind who
>> is
>> > > in
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> power
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> on a given day; the might of the Indian armed forces or
>> even
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> entire population of Assam unified to resist it will be
>> able
>> > > to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> eradicate. It is much too complex an issue, the like of
>> which
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> even
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the most powerful nation on earth, the USA, has not been
>> able
>> > > to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> resolve. Ultimately we cannot and must not forget that as
>> > > human
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> beings, we cannot just wish those others away who happen
>> to be
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> different from us but who want to live too, even if by
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> encroaching
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> on
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>> land whose boundaries we created or imagined.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> If you dwell on this as the primary focus of your aims for
>> Assam,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> you
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> are doomed at the outset. I realize it is an easy issue to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> generate
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> public ire with, but it is a recipe for sure failure.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> You must focus on issues that are very important but which
>> > > have
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> achievable solutions..
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to call on me if I can be of any assistance. I
>> am no
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> expert, but I have tried to understand what has been going
>> on
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> what led you to take up arms and what can be done now to
>> end
>> > > it.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> More later..
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>> Chandan Mahanta
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> At 10:59 AM +0530 3/7/09, ULFA Pro-talk wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Dear Friends,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >In the beginning, we convey our heartiest revolutionary
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> greetings
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >members of Assamnet. We, the members of ULFA ( Pro-talk )
>> > > held
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> meeting
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> on
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >15th December'2008 and unanimously agreed to give up the
>> > > demand
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >sovereign state of Assam and demand for full autonomy
>> within
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> framework
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >of Indian constitution, through a democratic and
>> non-violent
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> process.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> We
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >welcome discussion from all the Assamese people residing
>> > > across
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> globe
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> on
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >the demand for Full Autonomy of Assam under the framework
>> of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Indian
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >constitution. We are attaching herewith the 'Charter of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Demands'
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> submitted
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >to the Government of Indi. Also, we are attaching our
>> > > Menifesto
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> for
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >information of all members of Assamnet. Please log on to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >www.sandhikhyan.orgfor updates.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Looking forward for constructive discussion and
>> petronisation
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> on
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> burning
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >issues of Assam from all the members of Assamnet.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Regards,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Jiten Dutta
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Gen. Secy
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >ULFA (Protalk)
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >**
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >**
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*MANIFESTO*
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >(ULFA PRO-TALK)
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Historically and socially, Assam have no affinity with
>> India
>> > > &
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >administratively and geographically apart, ethnically
>> > > distinct
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >neglect, deprivation and apathy rowards Assam and
>> Assamese
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> people
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >since 15thAugust 1947 to till to date, supports the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> justification
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >independent
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >Assam. We joined the United Liberation Front of Assam to
>> > > >>>>>>>>> liberate
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> Assam
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> from
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >India. After 29 years of our struggle we have painfully
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> observed
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> top
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >leaders of ULFA instead of fighting for desired goals,
>> failed
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> safeguard
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> >the identity and the existence of indigenous people,
>> > > >>>>>> overlooking or
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> ignoring
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> >the presence of large number of illegal immigrants ( who
>> will
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> become
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >majority in next 20 years and they will conspire to merge
>> > > with
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Bangladesh
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >through a referendum ) and involved in activities by
>> getting
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> distracted
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> from
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> >revolutionaries ideologies. Therefore, we the pro-talk ULFA
>> > > group
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> looking
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >at the (a) global political and economic situation (b)
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> continuous
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> threat
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >from the neighbouring countries surrounding Assam (c)
> > > > possible
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> terrorist
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >attacks in Assam by anti-Indian religious and
>> fundamentalist
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> groups
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> (d)
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >age-old religious and cultural ties with India; have
>> adopted a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> resolution
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >favour of Full Regional Autonomy instead of independent
>> Assam
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> as
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> pragmatic
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>> >approach.
>> > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >During the process of making the Constitution of India a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> resolution
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> was
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >adopted to make India a federal one by giving regional
>> > > autonomy
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> states
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >but unfortunately in the subsequent period it was made a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> centralized
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> one,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >resulting in the smaller states and the small indigenous
>> > > groups
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> having
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >specific characteristics and living with dignity have
>> > > suffered
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> hands
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >of big ethnic groups and states by way of aggression and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> exploitation.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>> The
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> >fallout is resentment, hostility and secessionism. We the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> pro-talk
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> group
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >temporarily suspending the armed struggle & strongly
>> > > advocating
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> demand
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >democratic process to bring a peaceful and political
>> solution
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Assam-India's conflict and clashes between the ethnic
>> groups
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> build
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> up
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >a peaceful and prosperous Assam along with a united
>> powerful
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> India.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >**
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*Alternate to Independence*
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >A full regional autonomy by enjoying all the residual
>> powers
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> excepting
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > defense,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >external affaires, communications and print mint ( by
>> making
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> vital
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> changes
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >to the existing Constitution of India ) to build up a
>> real
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> federal
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> structure
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >by making vital changes to the infrastructure and
>> > > reorganizing
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> states
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >with a provision for equal rights and representation to
>> all
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> indigenous
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >ethnic groups. Similarly, in order to safeguard the
>> identity
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> existence
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >of indigenous and ethnic groups, the federal
>> administrative
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> framework
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> should
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >be used in Assam..
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*Proposed administrative structure of Assam*
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >To create an upper house, representing equally by all the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> indigenous
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >ethnic groups. Besides all indigenous people, other
>> people
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> those
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> who
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> have
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >already settled in Assam permanently as for example
> > Bengalis,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Biharis,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Marwaris, Punjabis, Nepalis and tea-tribes will be
>> considered
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> as
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >groups and will enjoy equal representations.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > The upper house will be free to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> discuss,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> determine
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >and taking decisions on the proposed legislations and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> development
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> schemes
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Assam in the best interest of the people of Assam. The
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> objective
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> principle
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >of the house is to safeguard the interests of indigenous
>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > people.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 1. The Upper House will be constituted selecting and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> electing
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> number
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > representatives from all ethnic groups. Central and
>> State
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> governments
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> will
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > not be having the power and rights to dissolve the
>> house.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Only
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > electorates through referendum shall have the right
>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> reject
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> or
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> dissolve
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > the house.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 2. Small ethnic groups will be having the rights to
>> > > select
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > representatives through their socially
>> recognized
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> institutions
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> >>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > organizations and the major ethnic groups will elect
>> > > their
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> representatives
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > through elections.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 3. All the ethnic groups shall have the right to
>> recall
>> > > or
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> replace
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> their
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> > representatives.
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> > 4. The representatives of the house will elect a leader
>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> deputy
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > leader. Rotation wise every ethnic group will elect a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> speaker
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>> a
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> deputy
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > speaker of the house and their term will be for a
>> period
>> > > of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 1
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> year.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 5. The responsibilities of the representatives of
>> upper
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> house
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> will
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > service- oriented nature. There shall be no
>> provisions
>> > > for
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> salary
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > pensions but expenses relating to maintenance,
>> medical,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> traveling
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > allowances, office and its maintenance and its
>> security
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> shall
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> borne
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> by
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> > the state government.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>> >
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*The Rights and Powers of Upper House *
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 1. Right to discuss, analyze and taking decisions on
>> all
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> proposed
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> laws
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > and legislations and developmental schemes of Assam
>> by
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ascertaining
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> whether
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > it is in the best interest of Assam or not and will
>> be
>> > > free
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> amend
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> or
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > reject such laws, legislations and schemes and such
>> > > actions
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > disapproved by the concerned governments.
> > > > >>
>> > > >>> > 2. The main objective of upper house is to safeguard the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> existence
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > development of all the indigenous and ethnic groups
>> and
>> > > to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> examine
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > proper implementations of all the laws, legislations
>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> developmental
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > schemes.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 3. It will be statutory on the part of the concerned
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> governments
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> send
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > the copies relating to the approval and
>> implementation of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> all
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> laws,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > legislations and developmental schemes to the upper
>> > > house.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 4. Rights to amend , settle the matters relating to
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> disputes
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > implementation of laws, legislations, developmental
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> schemes,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > conflicts, boundary and other disputes with the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> neighbouring
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> north-eastern
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > states on the strength of majority support of the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> representatives.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> It
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> shall
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > be obligatory on the part of the concerned
>> governments to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> accept
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> such
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > amendments and advices and to implement the same
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*An administrative system based on Equal Rights, Status,
>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Development
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >their own land for indigenous and ethnic people.*
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >In the proposed regional autonomous administration, the
>> power
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> will
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >de-centralized by creating district councils and by
>> > > delegating
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> powers
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >grass root levels. There will be zonal and village
>> councils
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> under
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> district
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >councils.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > District councils will be under the complete control of
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> major
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >indigenous people or groups and the other small
>> indigenous
>> > > and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> groups
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >will be able to assert their rights and fulfillment of
>> their
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> aspirations
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >through the zonal and village councils. While the
>> > > implementing
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> these
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >provisions a situation may warrant to reorganize some
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> districts.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >There will be no hindrances to major indigenous people or
>> > > group
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> form
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >district councils, having a definite area of their own
>> but
>> > > the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> splintered
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >indigenous and ethnic groups will be able to assert their
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> rights
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> fulfill
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >their aspirations through zonal and village councils.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*Proposed Format of Administrative Structure Of
>> Indigenous
>> > > and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ethnic
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >People.*
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> >* *
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*STATE GOVERNMENT*
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*DISTRICT COUNCIL*
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>> >* *
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*ZONAL COUNCIL*
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*VILLAGE COUNCIL*
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*Creation of Ethnically based Administrative System and
>> its
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rights
>> > > >>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> > >Powers*
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >* *
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 1. In every 5 years people will form districts, zonal
>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> village
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> > councils through elections.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > 2. Every district council will be reserved for the
>> major
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> indigenous
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > groups and the zonal and the village councils will be
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> reserved
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> on
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>> the
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> basis
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > of the population composition of indigenous and
>> ethnic
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> people
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> from
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> their
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > definite areas.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 3. Government shall implement all the schemes through
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> district
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> councils
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > and similarly district council through zonal councils
>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> zonal
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > councils
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > through village councils.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > 4. If a situation warrants, the state governments with
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> approval
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> from
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > upper house will be free to dissolve the district
>> > > council.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 5. District councils will collect minimum revenue
>> from
>> > > the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> land,
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > establishments and other natural resources, market
>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> finished
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> products
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > through zonal and village councils of their areas..
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL***
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >An alternative administrative system may be considered in
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> proposed
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >autonomous rule against the above-mentioned system.
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 1. Under proposed autonomous state of Assam there
>> will be
>> > > a
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> district
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > council in every district. 65% of the seats will be
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> reserved
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> for
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> all
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > major indigenous groups who are residing or
>> permanently
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> settled
>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> down
>> > > >>
>>
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