[Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
kamal deka
kjit.deka at gmail.com
Fri Mar 27 15:43:47 PDT 2009
Deja vu again! It brings me back to the same topic called " only in Assam"
Where on earth could a person ask for a solution of a problem when the
person himself refuses to recognise the existence of such problem?
Yes,it could happen.It could happen only in Assam.
A number of steps can be taken to bring the illegal infiltration down to the
minimum.Issuance of multi-purpose identity cards/fencing the
borders/devising efficient ways and means of detection of illegals--so on
and so forth.
What could anyone expect from a ruling govt.,who choose remain recalcitrant
in their opinion that there are no Bangladeshis in Assam!!? Why then blame
others?
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>
> So the big questions are ????
>
> Might I suggest that they are:
>
> A. HOW to reduce the inflow, if not stop it altogether?
>
> B. Distributing those already in to other parts of the country that
> claims Assam as its colony ? Like
> How the British took Indians to Kenya and to Fiji.
>
>
> So where are the righteous Indianistas clamoring for it to be DONE?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 10:21 PM -0500 3/26/09, kamal deka wrote:
>
>> The crux of the matter is unabated massive infiltration.
>> Alright,those who have already made their way illegally into Assam should
>> not be displaced.But why must Assam alone shoulder the burden of
>> harbouring
>> tens of thousands of illegal Bangladeshis?Why can't they be distributed on
>> proportionate basis to other states?
>> In the light of ongoing influx,Is the solution entailing " learn to live"
>> a defensible one ? " Learn to live with them" for how long?Till the
>> tipping
>> point is reached?
>> For those who are unfamiliar with the idiom, the tipping point means any
>> small change may not have any effect until critical mass is formed.Any
>> change thereafter,however small,will have a dramatic effect.
>> KJD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Alpana B. Sarangapani <
>> absarangapani at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I agree completely that nobody should be displaced. But new influx needs
>>> to
>>> be stopped.
>>>
>>> As long as Kashmir like situation does not occur in Assam, everybody
>>> should
>>> live together happily (ever after). I really mean that.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> > Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:22:57 -0700
>>> > From: dilipdeka at yahoo.com
>>> > To: assam at assamnet.org
>>> > Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
>>> >
>>> > That is true. But the first reality is whether (we) recognize that
>>> B'deshis
>>> > coming into Assam :
>>> > (a) are illegal YES
>>> > (b) Should they be sent back? YES BUT CAN YOU?
>>> > (c) Are we comfortable having them around: because they only occupy
>>> char
>>> and
>>> > useless land (where no Assamese will tread), and only take up jobs
>>> that
>>> no
>>> > Assamese will do? PROBABLY NOT TODAY, TOMORROW IS ANOTHER ISSUE.
>>> > (d) Should our "human' sensitivities go to the extent of displacing
>>> Assamese
>>> > from their chars, to make sure our illegal guests are comfy?
>>> ABSOLUTELY
>>> NOT. ARE THERE ASSAMESE SETTLERS ON CHARS? BANGLADESHIS ON THEIR ARRIVAL
>>> > DO NOT DISPLACE LOCAL PEOPLE. THEY OCCUPY GOVT LAND. WHEN THEY SAVE
>>> MONEY
>>> THROUGH HARD WORK, THEY LOOK FOR BETTER PROPERTY AND THE
>>> > LOCALS SELL TO THEM.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > From: Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>> > To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>> world <
>>> assam at assamnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:09:43 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
>>> >
>>> > >It is not a question of right or wrong anymore. It is agreed that
>>> they
>>> do
>>> > not have the right to encroach.
>>> > >It is about the reality. How does Assam and the Assamese people
>>> survive
>>> in
>>> > the reality of massive settlement of Bangladeshis?
>>> >
>>> > That is true. But the first reality is whether (we) recognize that
>>> B'deshis
>>> > coming into Assam :
>>>
>> > > (a) are illegal
>>
>>> > (b) Should they be sent back?
>>> > (c) Are we comfortable having them around: because they only occupy
>>> char
>>> and
>>> > useless land (where no Assamese will tread), and only take up jobs
>>> that
>>> no
>>> > Assamese will do?
>>> > (d) Should our "human' sensitivities go to the extent of displacing
>>> Assamese
>>> > from their chars, to make sure our illegal guests are comfy?
>>> >
>>> > >Are you suggesting that the settlers should be terrorized so that
>>> they
>>> go
>>> > back to Bangladesh?
>>> >
>>> > In fact, if Assamese are not careful, people may be terrorized, but it
>>> will
>>> > probably be B'Deshis getting rid of Assamese from Assam.
>>> >
>>> > --Ram
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka <
>>> dilipdeka at yahoo.com
>>>
>> > >wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>> > > Let me butt in.
>>> > > It is not a question of right or wrong anymore. It is agreed that
>>> they
>>> do
>>> > > not have the right to encroach.
>>> > > It is about the reality. How does Assam and the Assamese people
>>> survive
>>> in
>>> > > the reality of massive settlement of Bangladeshis?
>>> > > Are you suggesting that the settlers should be terrorized so that
>>> they
>>> go
>>> > > back to Bangladesh?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ________________________________
>>> > > From: kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>>> > > To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>> world
>>> > > <assam at assamnet..org>
>>> > > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:43:33 PM
>>> > > Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of Assam/3
>>> > >
>>> > > So, you are trying to justify that since bangladeshis are landless
>>> > > farmers,they have the the inherent right to cross the border and
>>> grab
>>> our
>>> > > land.Is there any other explanation? Do tell.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > At 9:21 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> Here is what you wrote:
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > *** Really? Omigosh!!!
>>> > > >
>>> > > > But wait--does that mean I made the argument attributed to me:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > " the state of Assam is
>>> > > >> obligated to allow them to move freely across the border and
>>> provide
>>> > > them
>>> > > >> with the land for cultivation. ?
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > *** I was explaining WHY B'deshis leave their own homeland to
>>> unwelcome
>>> > > > places, like Assam. It was NOT I who asked the question
>>> > > >
>>> > > > ",what does Assam have so much in abundance to render her so
>>> generous?"
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Does that ring a bell?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> "" B'deshis are overcrowded. Most of them are agrarian,
>>> subsistence
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>> farmers. To survive they need land. But not enough of it is
>>> there
>>> for
>>> > > >>>> everyone. So they come into Assam and the contiguous regions,
>>> because
>>> > > >>>> there
>>> > > >>>> still is public land where they can eke out a living. Often it
>>> is
>>> > > land
>>> > > >>>> others won't settle in, like the 'chars', or other perennial
>>> flood
>>> > > >>>> plains.
>>> > > >>>> OR inaccessible mountains. Whatever."
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >> KJD
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>> *** Where or when did I make that statement is the big
>>> question.
>>> > > Perhaps
>>> > > >>> you will point that out!
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> *** Anyway, we are waiting with bated breath to hear how you
>>> expect
>>> > > the
>>> > > >>> problem to be resolved :-).
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> At 7:41 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>> Wunderbar! Congratulation! You have just hammered out a
>>> permanent
>>> > > >>>> solution
>>> > > >>>> to this vexing problem.Full marks for the
>>> explanation.Since,most
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>> >> Bangaladeshis are rural-based landless farmers,the state of
>>> Assam
>>> > > is
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> obligated to allow them to move freely across the border and
>>> provide
>>> > > >>>> them
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>> >> with the land for cultivation.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> Next step----do away with the Immigration service from the face
>>> of
>>> > > this
>>> > > >>>> earth!!
>>>
>> > > > >>>> I am certainly left speechless.
>>
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Chan Mahanta <
>>> cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> > > >>>> wrote:
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> At 4:43 PM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> >> T he theory of " privation of Bangadeshis" propounded by
>>> you
>>> > > really
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>> tops
>>> > > >>>> >> my
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> hilarity chart.Or was it an attempt on your part to slip a
>>> levity
>>> > > into
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>> discussion!
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> **** Glad I could provide something where you could find
>>> humor.
>>> The
>>> > > >>>>> tenor
>>> > > >>>>> was getting awfully strident.
>>> > > >>>>> But I was entirely serious. People do not stream into
>>> unwelcome
>>>
>> > > > >>>>> environments unless there is an overwhelming need. B'deshis
>> are
>>
>>> > > >>>>> overcrowded. Most of them are agrarian, subsistence farmers.
>>> To
>>> > > >>>>> survive
>>> > > >>>>> they
>>> > > >>>>> need land. But not enough of it is there for everyone. So
>>> they
>>> come
>>> > > >>>>> into
>>> > > >>>>> Assam and the contiguous regions, because there still is
>>> public
>>> land
>>> > > >>>>> where
>>> > > >>>>> they can eke out a living. Often it is land others won't
>>> settle
>>> in,
>>> > > >>>>> like
>>> > > >>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>> 'chars', or other perennial flood plains. OR inaccessible
>>> mountains.
>>> > > >>>>> Whatever.
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> B'deshi privation is not a THEORY. It is a fact. And I won't
>>> make
>>> > > fun
>>> > > >>>>> of
>>> > > >>>>> human beings struggling to survive, even though they may not
>>> be
>>> my
>>> > > >>>>> people.
>>> > > >>>>> My first and foremost identity is the human one, like it
>>> should
>>> be
>>> > > for
>>> > > >>>>> all
>>> > > >>>>> of us. The world would be a better place when it is so..
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> >The old saying ' an enemy within home is more treacherous
>>> and
>>> > > >>>>> pernicious
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> than the one without" can be applied appropiately to our
>>> present-day
>>> > > >>>>>> politicians.Why then blame others?
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> >>>>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> **** OK, fair enough. So how are you planning or hoping to
>>> get
>>> rid
>>> > > of
>>> > > >>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>> enemy -within and replace it with whom you can find common
>>> cause?
>>> > > >>>>> Where
>>> > > >>>>> does
>>> > > >>>>> the enemy-within gets its power from?
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> **** I looked for the solution, recommendations. But there
>>> was
>>> none.
>>> > > >>>>> Is
>>> > > >>>>> it
>>> > > >>>>> because you cannot imagine it or do you want somebody else to
>>> find
>>> > > it
>>> > > >>>>> for
>>> > > >>>>> you :-)?
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> Why on earth should anyone expect an Assamese to burn
>>> midnight
>>> oil
>>> > > >>>>> thinking
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> about " privation of Bangadeshis",while he himself deals
>>> with
>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>> human
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>> >>>> vagaries for years?
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> What can one expect from the state govt.whose very chief
>>> minister
>>> (
>>> > > >>>>>> read
>>> > > >>>>>> Tarun Gogoi ) once said that the Congress is opposed to the
>>> > > harassing
>>> > > >>>>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>> genuine Indian citizens in the name of scrapping the IMDT
>>> Act,
>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>> that
>>> > > >>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>> detection of foreigners should not be left to the whims of
>>> police
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> >> officers.
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> Quite right,Mr.Chief minister-it should be left to the
>>> machinations
>>> > > of
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> vote-bank politicians!!! Yet, after a couple of decades,the
>>> apex
>>> > > >>>>>> court
>>> > > >>>>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>> India had flushed that piece of Black legislation down the
>>> commode
>>> > > >>>>>> because
>>> > > >>>>>> it was not Constitutional.
>>> > > >>>>>> The old saying ' an enemy within home is more treacherous
>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>> pernicious
>>> > > >>>>>> than the one without" can be applied appropiately to our
>>>
>> > > > present-day
>>
>>> > > >>>>>> politicians.Why then blame others?
>>> > > >>>>>> Have the Americans been able to stem the flow illegal
>>> immigrants?
>>> > > >>>>>> No,they
>>> > > >>>>>> haven't.But they,unlike us,don't live in a cloud-cuckoo-
>>> land.The
>>> > > >>>>>> Americans
>>> > > >>>>>> are not sitting idly thinking that the problem will vamoose
>>> by
>>> > > itself
>>> > > >>>>>> one
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> >> fine day.
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>> WHERE ARE RAJEN KOKAIDEW/SALEH KOKADEW/SARANGAPANI? WHAT'S
>>> YOUR
>>> TAKE
>>> > > ON
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> THIS?
>>> > > >>>>>> Kamal
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Chan Mahanta <
>>> > > cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> > > >>>>>> wrote:
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>
>>
>>> > > >>>>>> At 9:31 AM -0500 3/22/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> One should stuff that " privation of Bangladeshis" argument
>>> where
>>> > > >>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> sun
>>> > > >>>>>>>> does not shine.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> *** OK , so it be placed! Question then would be if they
>>> come to
>>> > > >>>>>>> Assam
>>> > > >>>>>>> for its generosity? Is that it?
>>> > > >>>>>>> Is it a believable proposition? I do realize however that
>>> it
>>> is
>>> > > a
>>> > > >>>>>>> hyperbole train that has gone a couple of stations too far
>>> :-).
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> I don't yet comprehend the issue at work here.One,what is
>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> meaning of "illegal"?I had thought that it was something
>>> not
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> sanctioned
>>> > > >>>>>>>> by
>>> > > >>>>>>>> the laws of any sovereign state.Two,are we supposed to sit
>>> back
>>> > > and
>>> > > >>>>>>>> twiddle
>>> > > >>>>>>>> our thumbs while the illegals outnumber us?
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> *** No that is not the ONLY interpretation of the notion I
>>> put
>>> > > >>>>>>> forth.
>>> > > >>>>>>> But
>>> > > >>>>>>> let us tackle the question:
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> "--are we supposed to sit back and twiddle our thumbs while
>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>> illegals
>>> > > >>>>>>> outnumber us? "
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> Since I don't have a neat little answer like 'round them up
>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>> kick-them
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> > out' or anything akin to that, what IS your solution?
>>> What
>>> do
>>> > > you
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> propose
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> or recommend be done? And WHY is it not being done the way
>>> you
>>> see
>>> > > as
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>> right way ? Or WHO do you think or expect WILL do it your
>>> way?
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> To day,my mother,brother and I
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> occupy a house in a plot of land.Tomorrow,if Martians took
>>> over
>>> > > the
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> >> remaining part of the land,we will be living in that
>>> > > compressed
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> space.Why
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> should anyone allow that to happen?
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> *** Very touching argument no doubt. Even though I would
>>> like
>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>> pretend
>>> > > >>>>>>> to be left speechless, dare I mention that the law of the
>>> land
>>> > > ought
>>> > > >>>>>>> not
>>> > > >>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>> allow such trespass and confiscation of your ancestral
>>> property?
>>> > > Or
>>> > > >>>>>>> is
>>> > > >>>>>>> that
>>> > > >>>>>>> too much to ask from the mighty Indian democracy as
>>> practised
>>> by
>>> > > its
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>> minions
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> in Assam?
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> Obviously the problem is a tad bit more complicated, isn't
>>> it?
>>> So
>>> > > >>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>> question the thinking person must raise is HOW to control
>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>> influx,
>>> > > >>>>>>> so
>>> > > >>>>>>> that the immigrants cannot take over the land, or become
>>> part
>>>
>> > of
>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>> voting
>>> > > >>>>>>> citizenry, while still being able to come and perform
>>> seasonal
>>> or
>>> > > >>>>>>> otherwise
>>> > > >>>>>>> limited time span services for which there IS a DEMAND? For
>>> IF
>>> > > there
>>> > > >>>>>>> was
>>> > > >>>>>>> no
>>> > > >>>>>>> such demand, the rate of migration would not be as strong.
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> Indian govt. knows it too, as do its minions in Assam. But
>>> WHAT
>>> > > have
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>> they
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> done about it? Can anyone in his right mind even hold out a
>>> remote
>>> > > >>>>>>> hope
>>> > > >>>>>>> they will, if they had not lifted a finger in all these
>>> decades?
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> That is WHY Assam needs independence--or at least a full
>>>
>> > autonomy,
>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>> put
>>> > > >>>>>>> in place a SUSTAINABLE system that will stanch the flow,
>>> even
>>> > > >>>>>>> though
>>> > > >>>>>>> we
>>> > > >>>>>>> know it cannot be entirely stopped.
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> Of course, there must be some checks and balances.It is the
>>> > > bounden
>>> > > >>>>>>> duty
>>> > > >>>>>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> the state govt.to ferret out such infiltrators.If ration
>>> cards
>>> > > and
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> voters
>>> > > >>>>>>>> identity cards can be issued to those illegal aliens to
>>> enrich
>>> > > >>>>>>>> their
>>> > > >>>>>>>> vote-bank,why can't they issue multi-purpose identity
>>> cards
>>> > > >>>>>>>> especially
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> >>>> in
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>> the border regions?
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> Assam is already overpopulated,can she afford added burdens
>>> ?
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> *** Why don't you tell us ? And see above.
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> By the way,the Americans had the harshest immigration
>>> policy
>>> till
>>> > > >>>>>>> 1962.
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> *** And has it stemmed the influx of illegal immigrants?
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Chan Mahanta <
>>> > > cmahanta at charter.net
>>> > > >>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> At 8:09 PM -0500 3/21/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> To compare Assam with the USA as far as immigration issue
>>> is
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> concerned,will
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> be as good as comparing apples with oysters..
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> *** Not at all!
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> The failure on part of the USA
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> to curb the influx of illegals does not mean that Assam
>>> should
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> allow
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Bangladeshis to cross the border freely till the
>>> indigenous
>>> > > people
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> are
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> completely outnumbered.If the vast, resourceful and
>>> thinly
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> populated
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> countries like the USA and Australia can have stringent
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> immigration
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> laws,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> *** Of course they can and they do have stringent
>>> immigration
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> laws.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> But
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> then why is there such a huge illegal immigration problem
>>> in
>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> USA?
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Australia is different--the oceans surrounding it makes
>>> illegal
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> border
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > crossing difficult .
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> what does Assam have so much in abundance to render her
>>> so
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> generous?
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> **** It is not about Assam's abundance but B'Desh's
>>> privation.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> That
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> simple.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Assam and the contiguous
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> region still has land and that is a huge incentive to
>>> migrate
>>> > > for
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> those
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> who
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> have none.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> There must be checks and balances.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> **** Tell us about it. So how has India performed on
>>>
>> > delivering
>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> on
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> those
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> checks and balances so far?
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Dilip and Dil Deka <
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> dilipdeka at yahoo.com
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> For whatever it is worth, this letter from Chandan
>>> Mahanta
>>> has
>>> > > my
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> support..
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I have been trying to convey the same message over the
>>> years.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Holding onto the guns with a sullen
>>> face
>>> and
>>> > > >> not talking
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> anyone
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> including the people in Assam will not result in a
>>> solution.
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> Persistent
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> discussion and deliberation are the only viable
>>> paths.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> * It is impossible to seal a border where natural
>>> > > barriers
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> do
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> not
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> exist. Assam will have to learn to live with the
>>> Bangladeshi
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> even if
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> >>>> Assam becomes autonomous or a sovereign country.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from
>>> around
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> world
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> <
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> assam at assamnet.org>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: ulfa.protalk at gmail.com
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:34:21 AM
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA : Demand for full autonomy of
>>> > > Assam/3
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends:
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> During the past several years, we here in assamnet
>>> debated
>>> > > over
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> over again, your movement and your struggles for an
>>> > > independent
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Assam. Over the years it became abundantly clear to me
>>> that
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> most
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> our friends here in this forum, in spite of their
>>> training,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> education
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and accomplishments, are quite uninformed about the
>>> reasons
>>> > > for
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> your
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> taking to arms in pursuit of independence for Assam.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >We the pro-talk group
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >temporarily suspending the armed struggle & strongly
>>> > > advocating
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> demand
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >democratic process to bring a peaceful and political
>>> solution
>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Assam-India's conflict and clashes between the ethnic
>>> groups
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> build
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>> up
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> >a peaceful and prosperous Assam along with a united
>>> powerful
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> India.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> **** Here it is important for you to explain why and
>>> how
>>> > > Indian
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> democracy has not performed , how your successive
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 'democratically'
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> elected governments were neither responsive nor able to
>>> > > respond
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> your needs that ultimately led you to give up on the
>>>
>> > promise
>>
>>> > > of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Indian democracy and finally, out of desperation , led
>>> to
>>> your
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to arms.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Why it is important to explain is that MOST of our
>>> people
>>> are
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ignorant of these issues. The idea is to generate
>>> awareness
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> among
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>> > the population and to mobilize INFORMED public opinion.
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I realize it is a lot of work. But there is no short-cut
>>> to
>>> it.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> **** You wrote about "temporarily suspending the armed
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> struggle--".
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Does that mean that you might
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> return to armed struggle? If so, should you not also
>>> explain
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> under
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> what circumstances you may consider resorting to armed
>>> > > struggle?
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> That should send a signal to GoI and GoA that you are
>>> serious
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> about
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> your wish to attempt to forge a political solution, but
>>> if
>>> it
>>> > > is
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > frustrated or resisted by the governments in power,
>>> you
>>> may
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> have
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> return to the armed struggle, which, by all indications
>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> people
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Assam ( the thinking ones anyway) do not want.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Not that I am one who believes in threatening anyone as
>>> a
>>> good
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> way
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> start a negotiation for attaining a political solution
>>> to
>>> a
>>> > > long
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> enduring conflict. But considering the history of your
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> adversaries'
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> sincerity and their ability or willingness to effect
>>> political
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> administrative reforms that are direly needed in Assam
>>> and
>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> surrounding region, you have little leverage
>>> left to
>>> > > >> engage them
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> in
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> serious dialogue, other than a concern for a resumption
>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> violence,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> however feeble now.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> The only hope for something positive and constructive
>>> will
>>> be an
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> outpouring of public opinion. That could be effected if
>>> you
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> clearly
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> explain what you see as the problems and how they
>>> could
>>> be
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> resolved
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> by what you propose.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> As you have already noticed right in this forum, there will
>>> be
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> those
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> who will opposed anything that they perceive as
>>> reducing
>>> > > Indian
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> controls over Assam's future, including contradicting
>>>
>> > their
>>
>>> > > own
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> loudly proclaimed and roundly repeated positions. And
>>> they
>>> are
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> just
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the tips of the icebergs of the establishment in
>>> Assam,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> something you
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> must be well aware of.
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> Therefore it is of critical importance for you to :
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> A: Clearly spell out what you see as problems, item
>>> by
>>> item.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> B: Explain how what you propose will help resolve
>>> them.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>> > > >>>>>> You must do so in simple language, understandable by
>>> ordinary
>>> > > people
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> ( avoid the jargon of professionals). And then go
>>> disseminate
>>> > > it
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> among the populace. Ultimately it is a matter of
>>> persuasion.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> One thing you must be realistic about is the issue of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Bangladeshis
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Assam: It is not something you, or your
>>> ex-comrades-in-arms
>>> > > who
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> are
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> still fighting or the government of Assam, never mind
>>> who
>>> is
>>> > > in
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> power
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> on a given day; the might of the Indian armed forces
>>> or
>>> even
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> entire population of Assam unified to resist it will be
>>> able
>>> > > to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> eradicate. It is much too complex an issue, the like
>>> of
>>> which
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> even
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the most powerful nation on earth, the USA, has not
>>> been
>>> able
>>> > > to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> resolve. Ultimately we cannot and must not forget that
>>> as
>>> > > human
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> beings, we cannot just wish those others away who
>>> happen
>>> to be
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> different from us but who want to live too, even if by
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> encroaching
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> on
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>> land whose boundaries we created or imagined.
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> If you dwell on this as the primary focus of your aims for
>>> Assam,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> you
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> are doomed at the outset. I realize it is an easy issue
>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> generate
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> public ire with, but it is a recipe for sure failure.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> You must focus on issues that are very important but
>>> which
>>> > > have
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> achievable solutions..
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to call on me if I can be of any assistance.
>>> I
>>> am no
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> expert, but I have tried to understand what has been
>>> going
>>> on
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> what led you to take up arms and what can be done now
>>> to
>>> end
>>> > > it.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> More later..
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>> Chandan Mahanta
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> At 10:59 AM +0530 3/7/09, ULFA Pro-talk wrote:
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Dear Friends,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >In the beginning, we convey our heartiest
>>> revolutionary
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> greetings
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >members of Assamnet. We, the members of ULFA (
>>> Pro-talk )
>>> > > held
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> meeting
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> on
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >15th December'2008 and unanimously agreed to give up
>>> the
>>> > > demand
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >sovereign state of Assam and demand for full autonomy
>>> within
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> framework
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >of Indian constitution, through a democratic and
>>> non-violent
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> We
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >welcome discussion from all the Assamese people
>>> residing
>>> > > across
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> globe
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> on
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >the demand for Full Autonomy of Assam under the
>>> framework
>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Indian
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >constitution. We are attaching herewith the 'Charter
>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Demands'
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> submitted
>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >to the Government of Indi. Also, we are attaching our
>>> > > Menifesto
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> for
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >information of all members of Assamnet. Please log on
>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >www.sandhikhyan.orgfor updates.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Looking forward for constructive discussion and
>>> petronisation
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> on
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> burning
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >issues of Assam from all the members of Assamnet.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Regards,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Jiten Dutta
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Gen. Secy
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >ULFA (Protalk)
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >**
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >**
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*MANIFESTO*
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >(ULFA PRO-TALK)
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Historically and socially, Assam have no affinity with
>>> India
>>> > > &
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >administratively and geographically apart, ethnically
>>> > > distinct
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >neglect, deprivation and apathy rowards Assam and
>>> Assamese
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> people
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >since 15thAugust 1947 to till to date, supports the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> justification
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >independent
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >Assam. We joined the United Liberation Front of Assam
>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> liberate
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Assam
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> from
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >India. After 29 years of our struggle we have
>>> painfully
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> observed
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> that
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> top
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >leaders of ULFA instead of fighting for desired goals,
>>> failed
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> safeguard
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> >the identity and the existence of indigenous people,
>>> > > >>>>>> overlooking or
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> ignoring
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> >the presence of large number of illegal immigrants ( who
>>> will
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> become
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >majority in next 20 years and they will conspire to
>>> merge
>>> > > with
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Bangladesh
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >through a referendum ) and involved in activities by
>>> getting
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> distracted
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> from
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> >revolutionaries ideologies. Therefore, we the pro-talk
>>> ULFA
>>> > > group
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> looking
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >at the (a) global political and economic situation (b)
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> continuous
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> threat
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >from the neighbouring countries surrounding Assam (c)
>>>
>> > > > possible
>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> terrorist
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >attacks in Assam by anti-Indian religious and
>>> fundamentalist
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> groups
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> (d)
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >age-old religious and cultural ties with India; have
>>> adopted a
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> resolution
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >favour of Full Regional Autonomy instead of
>>> independent
>>> Assam
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> as
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> pragmatic
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>> >approach.
>>> > > >>>>>
>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> >
>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >During the process of making the Constitution of India
>>> a
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> resolution
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> was
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >adopted to make India a federal one by giving regional
>>> > > autonomy
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> states
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >but unfortunately in the subsequent period it was made
>>> a
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> centralized
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> one,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >resulting in the smaller states and the small
>>> indigenous
>>> > > groups
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> having
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >specific characteristics and living with dignity have
>>> > > suffered
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> in
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> hands
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >of big ethnic groups and states by way of aggression
>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> exploitation.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>> The
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> >fallout is resentment, hostility and secessionism. We the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> pro-talk
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> group
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >temporarily suspending the armed struggle & strongly
>>> > > advocating
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> demand
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >democratic process to bring a peaceful and political
>>> solution
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Assam-India's conflict and clashes between the ethnic
>>> groups
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> build
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> up
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >a peaceful and prosperous Assam along with a united
>>> powerful
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> India.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >**
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*Alternate to Independence*
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >A full regional autonomy by enjoying all the residual
>>> powers
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> excepting
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > defense,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >external affaires, communications and print mint ( by
>>> making
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> vital
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> changes
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >to the existing Constitution of India ) to build up a
>>> real
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> federal
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> structure
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >by making vital changes to the infrastructure and
>>> > > reorganizing
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>> states
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >with a provision for equal rights and representation
>>> to
>>> all
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> indigenous
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >ethnic groups. Similarly, in order to safeguard the
>>> identity
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> existence
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >of indigenous and ethnic groups, the federal
>>> administrative
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> framework
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> should
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >be used in Assam..
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >*Proposed administrative structure of Assam*
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >* *
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >To create an upper house, representing equally by all
>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> indigenous
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >ethnic groups. Besides all indigenous people, other
>>> people
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> those
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> who
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> have
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >already settled in Assam permanently as for example
>>>
>> > Bengalis,
>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Biharis,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Marwaris, Punjabis, Nepalis and tea-tribes will be
>>> considered
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> as
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >groups and will enjoy equal representations.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > The upper house will be free
>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> discuss,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> determine
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >and taking decisions on the proposed legislations and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> development
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> schemes
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >Assam in the best interest of the people of Assam. The
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> objective
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> principle
>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> >of the house is to safeguard the interests of
>> indigenous
>>
>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > people.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 1. The Upper House will be constituted selecting
>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> electing
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> number
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > representatives from all ethnic groups. Central
>>> and
>>> State
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> governments
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> will
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > not be having the power and rights to dissolve the
>>> house.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Only
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > electorates through referendum shall have the
>>> right
>>> to
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> reject
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> or
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> dissolve
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > the house.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 2. Small ethnic groups will be having the rights
>>> to
>>> > > select
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > representatives through their socially
>>> recognized
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> institutions
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> >>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > organizations and the major ethnic groups will
>>> elect
>>> > > their
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> representatives
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > through elections.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 3. All the ethnic groups shall have the right to
>>> recall
>>> > > or
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> replace
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> their
>>> > > >>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>> > representatives.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > 4. The representatives of the house will elect a
>>> leader
>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> deputy
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > leader. Rotation wise every ethnic group will
>>> elect a
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> speaker
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>> a
>>> > > >>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>> deputy
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > speaker of the house and their term will be for a
>>> period
>>> > > of
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 1
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> year.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > 5. The responsibilities of the representatives of
>>> upper
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> house
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> will
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > service- oriented nature. There shall be no
>>> provisions
>>> > > for
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> salary
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > pensions but expenses relating to maintenance,
>>> medical,
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> traveling
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > allowances, office and its maintenance and its
>>> security
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> shall
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> be
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> >>> borne
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> by
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > the state government.
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>
>>> > > >>>
>>
>> ...
>
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