[Assam] Crybaby

Sun Mar 29 19:04:46 PDT 2009

> *** I see that YOUR interest here, like Sri 

I was just trying to point out your impartiality, C'da. I apologize if I hurt your feelings while doing that. :)

> *** It could very well be true, even if there are 
> banks. Banks after all are too run by people. 
> You heard of Citicorp :-)? The question you 
> ought to be asking is HOW can this happen? What 
> allows it to happen?
> And HOW can the citizenry help prevent it from happening?
> 
> But that is not something my fellow netters ever want to touch. I wonder why?

It is too overwhelming for me. Could you give us some pointers?

> And if in the process they can debunk or disprove 
> something I might have wrongly asserted or 
> commented on, nothing will make me happier. So as 
> Oprah might say--You go girl :-)!

Thank you and I will. As long as that does not make you irritated. :)

BTW, if you all haven't watched it yet, go see Knowing...Nicolas Cage acted superbly, and the little boy that acted as his son also did a fantastic job. 

> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 09:18:00 -0500
> To: assam at assamnet.org; c_pathak at hotmail.com
> From: cmahanta at charter.net
> Subject: Re: [Assam] Crybaby
> 
> Hi A:
> 
> 
> At 9:44 AM -0500 3/28/09, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
> >Hi C'da: At least this time you are not saying 
> >that it is the Delhi Babus' but the Assamese 
> >Babus' fault.
> 
> 
> 
> *** I see that YOUR interest here, like Sri 
> Dutta's -who wrote that Crybaby article, is 
> primarily to absolve Dilli's influence or 
> complicity or responsibility, right?
> 
> 
> But mine was not an effort designed to absolve 
> anyone. If you read it the way you did, and it 
> makes you feel good, it is MY pleasure :-). I 
> like to please when I can and am very aware that 
> I cause much displeasure amongst our good 
> friends here.
> 
> 
> *** My intention here was to help you all think 
> this thru, analyze it, place responsibility 
> where it may, reason why it happens and see if 
> you can suggest ways to improve if not eradicate 
> it. I am very aware of the fact that our very 
> intelligent and well meaning friends here never 
> take the bait. Perhaps I should not use a word 
> like 'bait' that could indicate I have an 
> ulterior motive to trap our friends :-). But 
> even I had such intentions, honorable and able 
> people ought not to shy away from taking it on. 
> For if they do, it only paints themselves in a 
> poor light--casting aspersions on their intents 
> in making the kind of arguments they do. Wouldn't 
> you think?
> 
> 
> But seriously, I can say whatever I do, maker 
> accusations or comments that may have absolutely 
> no merit what-so-ever. And if so, why should it 
> bother anyone? On the other hand if it troubles 
> netters, then it is proof there are truths to 
> what I say.
> 
> My intent here is to help or encourage my fellow 
> netters to look into issues critically.
> And if in the process they can debunk or disprove 
> something I might have wrongly asserted or 
> commented on, nothing will make me happier. So as 
> Oprah might say--You go girl :-)!
> 
> 
> 
> >I heard that cash was carried from Delhi to one 
> >of the NE states for some projects and all the 
> >Babus from that state took the cash home. I find 
> >it hard to believe though, even in the least 
> >developed places there are banks. Or, may be it 
> >was just an example they gave. I just didn't 
> >want to ask him...
> 
> 
> *** It could very well be true, even if there are 
> banks. Banks after all are too run by people. 
> You heard of Citicorp :-)? The question you 
> ought to be asking is HOW can this happen? What 
> allows it to happen?
> And HOW can the citizenry help prevent it from happening?
> 
> But that is not something my fellow netters ever want to touch. I wonder why?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:27:09 -0500
> >> To: c_pathak at hotmail.com; assam at assamnet.org
> >> From: cmahanta at charter.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Assam] Crybaby
> >>
> >> A quick one here Chitta:
> >>
> >>
> >> >I found the piece by Shri Arup Dutta very relevant- presented a
> >> >proper commentry. Did you not find it >aggreable?
> > >
> > >
> >> *** There was nothing to be agreeable about. Whining, like Dutta
> >> was, or some of our friends do here in this forum leads to nothing.
> >> It would be of consequence if , instead of whining, one attempts to
> >> delineate the PROBLEMS, explore their causes, and attempts to find
> >> solutions for them.
> >>
> >> I am surprised, that as an engineer, you were satisfied merely with
> >> the whining.
> >>
> >>
> >> > >Given the fact most of the Guwahatians are Assamese and PWD
> >> >enginners are almost 100% Asomiya enginner, where is the difference
> >> >between what you and Shri dutta said? As I see it, he talked about
> >> >whole of Assamese people , your condemnation was limited to only
> >> >Guwahatians.
> >>
> >>
> >> *** I was not condemning the Assameseness of Guahatians. I was
> >> specific about the failures of PWD engineers ( along with their
> >> political masters) who DESIGNED and BUILT the most atrocious of urban
> >> roads, sidewalks and non-drainage system that afflicts Guahati
> >> today; while its citizenry remained silent
> >> spectators or inconsequential to its outcome.
> >>
> >> Now there are good reasons for it. Can you imagine what they might
> >> be? Are you willing to dig into them? Why it happens?
> > >
> >> Manoj chimed in to tell us that IF they wished , they could do
> >> better. To prove his point he named an engineer who built good road
> >> systems sometime in a hoary past that still remain solidly
> >> serviceable.
> >>
> >> The inference we should draw, from that is that Guahati PWD engineers
> >> and the accomplices do not wish to perform their duties. Why is
> >> that so? Is it because the Assamese are genetically handicapped?
> >> Or is it because the Guahatians are so? Or could there be more
> >> intelligent inferences to be drawn?
> >>
> >> I ask the questions to help you think it thru. Now don't go silent
> >> and tell us why you think things are the way they are.
> >>
> >> Finally, the designs of the roads, sidewalks, manholes, drainage
> >> inlets and other accessories that HAVE BEEN built could not possibly
> >> have been designed by anybody with any engineering training.
> >> Do you disagree?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 8:57 AM +0000 3/28/09, chittaranjan paTHAK wrote:
> >> >Mahanta da,
> >> >I found the piece by Shri Arup Dutta very relevant- presented a
> >> >proper commentry. Did you not find it aggreable?
> >> >
> >> >On Guwahati's people, this is what you said (while supporting the
> >> >excellant piece by S Baruah)
> >> >
> >> >" I have absolutely no respect, not even an itty-bitty tiny speck of
> >> >it, for Guwahati PWD engineers! They are the most useless lot if
> >> >there ever was any. It is an insult to the profession of engineering
> >> >to call themselves engineers! I am sure they are compromised by their
> >> >political masters, but that is no excuse to let the kind of things
> >> >constructed as they did. Finally, I must also say that the people of
> >> >Guwahati are such an
> >> >apathetic lot, that they take it all lying down!"
> >> >
> >> >Given the fact most of the Guwahatians are Assamese and PWD
> >> >enginners are almost 100% Asomiya enginner, where is the difference
> >> >between what you and Shri dutta said? As I see it, he talked about
> >> >whole of Assamese people , your condemnation was limited to only
> >> >Guwahatians.
> >> >
> >> >Regards
> >> >
> >> >Chitta
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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