[Assam] Crybaby

[Chan Mahanta]

Hi A:


At 9:44 AM -0500 3/28/09, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
>Hi C'da: At least this time you are not saying 
>that it is the Delhi Babus' but the Assamese 
>Babus' fault.



***  I see that YOUR interest here, like Sri 
Dutta's -who wrote that Crybaby article, is 
primarily to absolve Dilli's influence or 
complicity or responsibility, right?


But mine was not an effort designed to absolve 
anyone. If you read it the way you did, and it 
makes you feel good, it is MY pleasure :-). I 
like to please when I can and am very aware that 
I cause  much displeasure amongst our good 
friends here.


*** My intention here was to help you all think 
this thru, analyze it,  place responsibility 
where it may, reason why it happens and see if 
you can suggest ways to improve if not eradicate 
it.  I am very aware of the fact that our very 
intelligent and well meaning friends here never 
take the bait. Perhaps I should not use a word 
like 'bait'   that could indicate I have an 
ulterior motive to trap our friends :-).  But 
even I had such intentions, honorable and able 
people  ought not to shy away from taking it on. 
For if they do, it only paints themselves in a 
poor light--casting aspersions on their intents 
in making the kind of arguments they do. Wouldn't 
you think?


But seriously, I can say whatever I do, maker 
accusations or comments that may have absolutely 
no merit what-so-ever. And if so, why should it 
bother anyone? On the other hand if it  troubles 
netters, then it is proof there are truths to 
what I say.

My intent here is to help or encourage my fellow 
netters  to look into issues critically.
And if in the process they can debunk or disprove 
something I might have wrongly asserted or 
commented on, nothing will make me happier. So as 
Oprah might say--You go girl :-)!



>I heard that cash was carried from Delhi to one 
>of the NE states for some projects and all the 
>Babus from that state took the cash home. I find 
>it hard to believe though, even in the least 
>developed places there are banks. Or, may be it 
>was just an example they gave. I just didn't 
>want to ask him...


*** It could very well be true, even if there are 
banks. Banks after all are too run  by people. 
You heard of Citicorp :-)?  The question you 
ought to be asking is HOW can this happen?  What 
allows it to happen?
And HOW can the citizenry help prevent it from happening?

But that is not something my fellow netters ever want to touch. I wonder why?






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>>  Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:27:09 -0500
>>  To: c_pathak at hotmail.com; assam at assamnet.org
>>  From: cmahanta at charter.net
>>  Subject: Re: [Assam] Crybaby
>>
>>  A quick one here Chitta:
>>
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>>  >I found the piece by Shri Arup Dutta very relevant- presented a
>>  >proper commentry. Did you not find it >aggreable?
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>>  *** There was nothing to be agreeable about. Whining, like Dutta
>>  was, or some of our friends do here in this forum leads to nothing.
>>  It would be of consequence if , instead of whining, one attempts to
>>  delineate the PROBLEMS, explore their causes, and attempts to find
>>  solutions for them.
>>
>>  I am surprised, that as an engineer, you were satisfied merely with
>>  the whining.
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>>  > >Given the fact most of the Guwahatians are Assamese and PWD
>>  >enginners are almost 100% Asomiya enginner, where is the difference
>>  >between what you and Shri dutta said? As I see it, he talked about
>>  >whole of Assamese people , your condemnation was limited to only
>>  >Guwahatians.
>>
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>>  *** I was not condemning the Assameseness of Guahatians. I was
>>  specific about the failures of PWD engineers ( along with their
>>  political masters) who DESIGNED and BUILT the most atrocious of urban
>>  roads, sidewalks and non-drainage system that afflicts Guahati
>>  today; while its citizenry remained silent
>>  spectators or inconsequential to its outcome.
>>
>>  Now there are good reasons for it. Can you imagine what they might
>>  be? Are you willing to dig into them? Why it happens?
>  >
>>  Manoj chimed in to tell us that IF they wished , they could do
>>  better. To prove his point he named an engineer who built good road
>>  systems sometime in a hoary past that still remain solidly
>>  serviceable.
>>
>>  The inference we should draw, from that is that Guahati PWD engineers
>>  and the accomplices do not wish to perform their duties. Why is
>>  that so? Is it because the Assamese are genetically handicapped?
>>  Or is it because the Guahatians are so? Or could there be more
>>  intelligent inferences to be drawn?
>>
>>  I ask the questions to help you think it thru. Now don't go silent
>>  and tell us why you think things are the way they are.
>>
>>  Finally, the designs of the roads, sidewalks, manholes, drainage
>>  inlets and other accessories that HAVE BEEN built could not possibly
>>  have been designed by anybody with any engineering training.
>>  Do you disagree?
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>>  At 8:57 AM +0000 3/28/09, chittaranjan paTHAK wrote:
>>  >Mahanta da,
>>  >I found the piece by Shri Arup Dutta very relevant- presented a
>>  >proper commentry. Did you not find it aggreable?
>>  >
>>  >On Guwahati's people, this is what you said (while supporting the
>>  >excellant piece by S Baruah)
>>  >
>>  >" I have absolutely no respect, not even an itty-bitty tiny speck of
>>  >it, for Guwahati PWD engineers! They are the most useless lot if
>>  >there ever was any. It is an insult to the profession of engineering
>>  >to call themselves engineers! I am sure they are compromised by their
>>  >political masters, but that is no excuse to let the kind of things
>>  >constructed as they did. Finally, I must also say that the people of
>>  >Guwahati are such an
>>  >apathetic lot, that they take it all lying down!"
>>  >
>>  >Given the fact most of the Guwahatians are Assamese and PWD
>>  >enginners are almost 100% Asomiya enginner, where is the difference
>>  >between what you and Shri dutta said? As I see it, he talked about
>>  >whole of Assamese people , your condemnation was limited to only
>>  >Guwahatians.
>>  >
>>  >Regards
>>  >
>>  >Chitta
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