[Assam] force is effective only as a preventative

kamal deka kjit.deka at gmail.com
Sun Jun 6 06:48:22 PDT 2010 

Again,you have erred on two counts.

Firstly,by interpreting the history according to your own
convenience.If you try to trace the original inhabitants of a
nation,you might as well go back to the stage of homo sapiens!!!
Unfortunately,it does not work the way you think.

Secondly,your extravagant claim with respect to Islam and
democracy---a fiercely incompatible issue.

KJD

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com> wrote:
> A quick reply from the road:
>
>>However,democracy advocates the use of the ballot in lieu of the bullet to
>> settle issues.
>
> *** Funny, this democracy thang ! The Palestinian / Israeli standoff is
> where it is because of the Israelis'
> refusal to accept the return of the displaced Palestinians who were thrown
> out of their homes and land
> when Israel was created by a third party. Why? Because the Israelis fear,
> not unreasonably, that the Palestinians will
> outnumber them in a short time.
>
> So much for democracy!
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2010, at 3:31 PM, kamal deka wrote:
>
>>>>> And look how it has brought peace to their lives!<<<
>>
>> You see,I have put the ' peace process ' in a poke, for now, on
>> account of the fact that ' peace at all cost concept ' is,in my
>> measured opinion, not only self-defeating but also self-destructive.
>> My perception hinges on the ground that the ad infiitinum ' peace
>> talks' tend to continue ad infinitum that does not result in an end
>> product.It appears,those talks will continue until there is some sort
>> of a divine intervention from the heaven above itself .We should stop
>> cocoon ourshelves in dreams about ' peace ' with those ' pious' souls
>> unless the foundation of talk of talks is grounded in reality:-)
>>
>> Please do not mistake me--I am not trying to throw a spanner in the
>> works.One is most welcome to have palavers.However,democracy advocates
>> the use of the ballot in lieu of the bullet to
>> settle issues. There can be no compromise with to this basic dictum of
>> democracy whatsoever despite the seemingly insurmountable deficiencies
>> in our system.Otherwise,we will have the mother of all stalemates in
>> all the time to come.
>> KJD
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:35 PM, kamal deka wrote:
>>>
>>>> RS,
>>>>
>>>> I have oodles of adulation for the Israelis.For,the tiny
>>>> Arab-surrounded nation has been able to storm to power by sending
>>>> shrivers up Arab's spine.
>>>
>>>
>>> **** Oooh! How scary :-)!
>>>
>>> And look how it has brought peace to their lives!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> In contrast,our approach to terrorism has all
>>>> along been tepid and timid,castrated and impotent.Our undying faith on
>>>> ' peace process'  will remain unmatched.
>>>> KJD
>>>> '
>>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **** Sushanta's view is slanted ? I'll be danged ! Coming from an
>>>>>
>>>>> upstanding and righteous one like you Ram,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the likes of me must be standing on our heads :-) .
>>>>>
>>>>> And, C'da do you also have your own version? Would like to hear that
>>>>> too.
>>>>> Sushanta's history is full of "bloody" Brits, imperialist this
>>>>> terrorist
>>>>> Israel........ all the fault of the Brits, Israel, USA, and everyone
>>>>> else,
>>>>> except the poor Palestinians, the Arabs.
>>>>>
>>>>> He starts off with a huge bias, and views the West basically as
>>>>> imperialists
>>>>> and of imposing their will on poorer countries.
>>>>> Jeez, this "victim" mentality seems to be spreading like wild fire :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> --Ram
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the rest of it, all I can say is that you seem to have a very
>>>>>>> slanted
>>>>>>> view of Middle East history. So be it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **** Sushanta's view is slanted ? I'll be danged ! Coming from an
>>>>>> upstanding and righteous one like you Ram,
>>>>>> the likes of me must be standing on our heads :-) .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 4, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  "the Jews or the Arabs." Jews are  religious group. Arab are not.
>>>>>> Most
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the Arab are Muslim these
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> days, But all the Mulsims are not Arab.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for enlightening me. If you hadn't told me, I wouldn't have
>>>>>>> known.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Your information only establish my point that Jews didn't achieved
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sate
>>>>>>>> through any legitimate struggle. Their   dream based on mythology
>>>>>>>>  do
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> justify their aspiration.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is .. nor can the Arabs. They too don't have an absolute
>>>>>>> claim.
>>>>>>> The whole area was ruled by the Brits. The Arabs too base their claim
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> mythology. Abraham, had a child, Ishmail through his servant, and
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> the Arab claim - also based on mythology, Old Testament and Bibilical
>>>>>>> narratives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In any case, for many centuries, both Jewish and Arabs lived
>>>>>>> peacefully
>>>>>>> side-by-side. In fact, even the Koran cites examples where the Arabs
>>>>>>> often
>>>>>>> had Jews to support them in fighting enemies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, the only thing one can logically go by is recent history. I am
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to talk about imperial this or imperial that - specially sitting and
>>>>>>> enjoying the fruits & benefits of a democracy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the rest of it, all I can say is that you seem to have a very
>>>>>>> slanted
>>>>>>> view of Middle East history. So be it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Sushanta Kar <pragyan.tsc50 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  "the Jews or the Arabs."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jews are  religious group. Arab are not. Most of the Arab are Muslim
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>> days, But all the Mulsims are not Arab.
>>>>>>>> "US/UK will exist"
>>>>>>>> Sure ! why not! They are most developed nations of the world . who
>>>>>>>> deny
>>>>>>>> that!
>>>>>>>> But, not the Imperialist! The colonialist! People of both the great
>>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>>> will fight those Ruling elite! And they are fighting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All the " ill-will toward these countries" will be there till date
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> earn
>>>>>>>> all  their wealth by exploiting labor, natural resources of third
>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>> countries like us.
>>>>>>>> "The Jewish State was created by the Brits as a fallout of Nazi
>>>>>>>> ....UK
>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>> not want Jews coming in droves into the UK, "
>>>>>>>> Thank you for recognizing the fact. This is one among many. But
>>>>>>>> true. cBrits pulled back
>>>>>>>> Palestines only to save their own nation!  Brits pulled back
>>>>>>>> Palestines only to save their own nation! What a democratic value!
>>>>>>>> And after doing all these injustice to a independent nation, while
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> people there fight the British ill doing, they are being marked as
>>>>>>>> terrorist!
>>>>>>>> What a judgment!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your information only establish my point that Jews didn't achieved
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> sate
>>>>>>>> through any legitimate struggle. Their   dream based on mythology
>>>>>>>>  do
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> justify their aspiration. If so then tomorrow Indonesian Hindus can
>>>>>>>> claim
>>>>>>>> that India is their mythical country . so they have every right to
>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> sattel down here!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sushanta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4 June 2010 22:31, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Sushanta,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While you are certainly entitled to your views, just to put things
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> context, and without hyperbole:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Jewish State was created by the Brits as a fallout of Nazi
>>>>>>>>> Germany's
>>>>>>>>> attrocities in the German concentartion camps, and the fact that
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> UK
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not want Jews coming in droves into the UK, and add to that the
>>>>>>>>> Jews
>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> (just like the Arabs believe) that Abraham (from the Old Testament)
>>>>>>>>> bestowed
>>>>>>>>> the region to the Jews.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The history is murky at best to definitely claim that the region
>>>>>>>>> belongs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the Jews or the Arabs. All we can go on is recent history. If you
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> start blaming one group or another, you will be doing so for a long
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>> Both Arabs and Jews must find a way to live in peace.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We know this much that many don't want Israel to exist at all.
>>>>>>>>> Well,
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> only a pipe dream. Israel will exist, just like India will exist,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> US/UK will exist inspite of many who harbor ill-will toward these
>>>>>>>>> countries.
>>>>>>>>> They will exist inspite of people taking full advantage of the
>>>>>>>>> benefits
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> language, culture, opportunities, education, advancement etc
>>>>>>>>> offered
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> these countries, and in return hate them and wish to do them harm.
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, that is the nature of the world.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --Ram da
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Sushanta Kar
>>>>>>>>> <pragyan.tsc50 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Dear
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ramda,
>>>>>>>>>> I've tried to understand the points of the article. but failed
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> my inability to understand the language well.
>>>>>>>>>> All I understood is the writer has a deep sympathy with the
>>>>>>>>>> Zionist
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> state.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Which I don't have. To my understanding it is not a legitimate
>>>>>>>>>> state.
>>>>>>>>>> Had there been a  state for Jews  being achieved after a prolong
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> freedom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> struggle  in Palestine like Bangladesh I would have no problem. .
>>>>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have no problem with Swadhin Axom if ULFA achieve it. Because all
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> residence of that state would be the Khilonjiya of that newly
>>>>>>>>>> created
>>>>>>>>>> state.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But that was not the case with the Jews.How it would have been if
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bauddhist  of the world  irrespective of their languages and races
>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> being invited to come  India and  create an independent state in
>>>>>>>>>> India
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> make all the Indian second grade citizen  only because the
>>>>>>>>>> religion
>>>>>>>>>> originated here. That too under the gun of imperialist British,
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ruled
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the country for more than two century. Israil is such a country.
>>>>>>>>> Jew,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> irrespective of their languages and culture, came from whole world
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>> Israel out of Palestine.
>>>>>>>>>> Israel is just like a police out post of US & British  imperialist
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oil rich middle east. A living Human Bomb  created by their
>>>>>>>>>> imperialist
>>>>>>>>>> masters.
>>>>>>>>>> If the world have to be free from their hegemony end exploitation
>>>>>>>>>>  (
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sidha
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> kothat koboloi gole Tel Curir Aru Ostror Bojaror pora mukti
>>>>>>>>>> paboloi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> gole
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Israel will have to go in present form.   And it will go. The
>>>>>>>>>> freedom
>>>>>>>>>> loving
>>>>>>>>>> world will never let Israel to leave in peace. Or It would be
>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> say,
>>>>>>>>>> Israel will not let the freedom and peace loving world to leave
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> peace
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> till it exist!
>>>>>>>>>> Thats what My understanding. I know you will not agree!
>>>>>>>>>> Sushanta
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 4 June 2010 19:48, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  the flotilla was not about humanitarian relief but about breaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> blockade,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *** so it is just to starve off the Palestians? Awesome argument,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ain't
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 4, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sushanta,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As an extension to our discussions, here is a column from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Washington
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Post. While I don't particularly agree with what Krauthammer
>>>>>>>>>> writes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> particular case, he seems to get it right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because it is the US, the UK or Israel or the GOI or GOA,
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the root cause of all worldly problems and issues, and those
>>>>>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> are always the victims.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>> *****Why was the offer refused? Because, as organizer Greta
>>>>>>>>>>>> Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>>> admitted,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the flotilla was not about humanitarian relief but about
>>>>>>>>>>>> breaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> blockade, i.e., ending Israel's inspection regime, which would mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> unlimited shipping into Gaza and thus the unlimited arming of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hamas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Israel has already **twice intercepted ships
>>>>>>>>>>>> laden*<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A16637-2002Jan8?language=printer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  * with Iranian arms destined for Hezbollah and Gaza. What
>>>>>>>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> allow that?********** (from the article)*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what country interested in their safety and well-being turn
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> eye. Now, Hamas/Turkey is planning to send another "humanitarian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ship.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To test Israel?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The article is below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Ram da
>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Those troublesome Jews
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles Krauthammer
>>>>>>>>>>>> Friday, June 4, 2010; A19
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The world is outraged at Israel's blockade of Gaza. Turkey
>>>>>>>>>>>> denounces
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> illegality<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.mfa.gov.tr/address-by-h_e_-ahmet-davutoglu_-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-republic-of-turkey-at-the-united-nations_-31-may-2010_-new-york.en.mfa
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> inhumanity, barbarity, etc. The usual U.N. suspects, Third World
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> European, join in. The Obama administration dithers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But as Leslie Gelb<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-05-31/israel-was-right-to-board-the-gaza-flotilla/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> former president of the Council on Foreign Relations, writes,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> blockade
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is not just perfectly rational, it is perfectly legal. Gaza under
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hamas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> self-declared enemy of Israel -- a declaration backed up by more
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4,000
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> rockets fired at Israeli civilian territory. Yet having pledged
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> unceasing belligerency, Hamas claims victimhood when Israel
>>>>>>>>>>> imposes
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> blockade to prevent Hamas from arming itself with still more
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> rockets.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In World War II, with full international legality, the United
>>>>>>>>>>>> States
>>>>>>>>>>>> blockaded Germany and Japan. And during the October 1962 missile
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> crisis,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> blockaded ("quarantined") Cuba. Arms-bearing Russian ships
>>>>>>>>>>>> headed
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cuba
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> turned back because the Soviets knew that the U.S. Navy would
>>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> them or sink them. Yet Israel is accused of international
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> criminality
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> doing precisely what John Kennedy did: impose a naval blockade to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> prevent
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hostile state from acquiring lethal weaponry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, but weren't the Gaza-bound ships on a mission of
>>>>>>>>>>>> humanitarian
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> relief?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No. Otherwise they would have accepted Israel's offer to bring
>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> supplies to an Israeli
>>>>>>>>>>>> port<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-gaza-aid-convoy-can-unload-cargo-in-ashdod-for-inspection-1.292560
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> be inspected for military materiel and have the rest trucked by
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Israel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaza -- as every week 10,000 tons of food, medicine and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> humanitarian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> supplies are sent by Israel to Gaza.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why was the offer refused? Because, as organizer Greta Berlin
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> admitted,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> flotilla was not about humanitarian relief but about breaking
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> blockade,
>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e., ending Israel's inspection regime, which would mean
>>>>>>>>>>>> unlimited
>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>> into Gaza and thus the unlimited arming of Hamas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Israel has already twice intercepted ships
>>>>>>>>>>>> laden<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A16637-2002Jan8?language=printer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Iranian arms destined for Hezbollah and Gaza. What country would
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But even more important, why did Israel even have to resort to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> blockade?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because, blockade is Israel's fallback as the world systematically
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> de-legitimizes its traditional ways of defending itself --
>>>>>>>>>>>> forward
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> active defense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) *Forward defense*: As a small, densely populated country
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> surrounded
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hostile states, Israel had, for its first half-century, adopted
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> forward
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> defense -- fighting wars on enemy territory (such as the Sinai and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Golan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heights) rather than its own.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where possible (Sinai, for example) Israel has traded territory
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> peace.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But where peace offers were refused, Israel retained the
>>>>>>>>>>> territory
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> protective buffer zone. Thus Israel retained a small strip of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> southern
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lebanon to protect the villages of northern Israel. And it took
>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> losses
>>>>>>>>>>>> in Gaza, rather than expose Israeli border towns to Palestinian
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> terror
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> attacks. It is for the same reason America wages a grinding war in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Afghanistan: You fight them there, so you don't have to fight
>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But under overwhelming outside pressure, Israel gave it up. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Israelis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> were told the occupations were not just illegal but at the root of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> anti-Israel insurgencies -- and therefore withdrawal, by removing
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cause,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> would bring peace.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Land for peace. Remember? Well, during the past decade, Israel
>>>>>>>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> land
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- evacuating South Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005. What did
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> get?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> intensification of belligerency, heavy militarization of the
>>>>>>>>>>> enemy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> side,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> multiple kidnappings, cross-border attacks and, from Gaza, years
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> unrelenting rocket attack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) *Active defense*: Israel then had to switch to active
>>>>>>>>>>>> defense
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> military action to disrupt, dismantle and
>>>>>>>>>>>> defeat<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-on-a-New-Strategy-for-Afghanistan-and-Pakistan/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> borrow President Obama's description of our campaign against the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Taliban
>>>>>>>>>>>> and al-Qaeda) the newly armed terrorist mini-states established
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> southern
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lebanon and Gaza after Israel withdrew.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The result? The Lebanon war of 2006 and Gaza operation of
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2008-09.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> met with yet another avalanche of opprobrium and calumny by the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>> international community that had demanded the land-for-peace
>>>>>>>>>>>> Israeli
>>>>>>>>>>>> withdrawals in the first place. Worse, the U.N. Goldstone
>>>>>>>>>>>> report<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/14/AR2009111402279.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> which essentially criminalized Israel's defensive operation in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaza
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> whitewashing the *casus belli* -- the *preceding* and unprovoked
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hamas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rocket war -- effectively de-legitimized any active Israeli defense
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>>>>> its self-declared terror enemies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (3) *Passive defense*: Without forward or active defense, Israel
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with but the most passive and benign of all defenses -- a blockade
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> prevent enemy rearmament. Yet, as we speak, this too is headed
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> international de-legitimation. Even the United States is now
>>>>>>>>>>>> moving
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> toward
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> having it abolished.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But, if none of these is permissible, what's left?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, but that's the point. It's the point understood by the
>>>>>>>>>>>> blockade-busting
>>>>>>>>>>>> flotilla of useful idiots and terror sympathizers, by the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Turkish
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> front
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> organization that funded it, by the automatic anti-Israel Third
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> World
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> chorus
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at the United Nations, and by the supine Europeans who've had
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of the Jewish problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What's left? Nothing. The whole point of this relentless
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> international
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> campaign is to deprive Israel of *any* legitimate form of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> self-defense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> just last week, the Obama administration joined the jackals, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> reversed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> four decades of U.S. practice, by signing onto a consensus
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> document<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/29/AR2010052902304.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> singles out Israel's possession of nuclear weapons -- thus
>>>>>>>>>>>> de-legitimizing Israel's very last line of defense: deterrence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The world is tired of these troublesome Jews, 6 million -- that
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- hard by the Mediterranean, refusing every invitation to
>>>>>>>>>>>> national
>>>>>>>>>>>> suicide.
>>>>>>>>>>>> For which they are relentlessly demonized, ghettoized and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> constrained
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> defending themselves, even as the more committed anti-Zionists --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Iranian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> particular -- openly prepare a more final solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> letters@ charleskrauthammer.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> <letters@%20charleskrauthammer.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Sushanta Kar <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pragyan.tsc50 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well said and good suggestion Utamda! I could have avoid the
>>>>>>>>>>>> word
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'bloody'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No comments anymore for now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sushanta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 June 2010 12:17, uttam borthakur
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sushanta,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The analogy between the "Emperor" and the "Pirate" applies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Emperor" (Alexander) molested the world, but had retained the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> punish the "Pirate", who had molested a few ships. The reason for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  is obvious; there would be no end to this debate, as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> debate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  resolved even by 'war', the extreme method of seeking a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But at the same time, use of less adjectives, and more of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> augur well for an argument. The use of the word 'concrete' by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> German
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  lady
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  (who was a communist, but Gestapo could not ascertain her
>>>>>>>>>>>>> leanings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  severe interrogation) at the fag end of an inqusition gave her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> away
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  (Refer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  to: The God that Failed) . So, it would be better to stick to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> admitted
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  facts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  (even what is fact for you may not be fact for another) beyond
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reproach
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> would make your case stronger, and even your detractors would
>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  guarded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  silence or stay away from entering a debate or try to evade
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moot
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  issues,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  unless they have a vested interest in scoring over you. :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just tell me why should you call the British 'bloody'; the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> empire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  do otherwise than to set up an empire, because the growth of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mercantile
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> activities  had to find a market world-wide; just like the
>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> US,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  cannot do without looting the scarce fossil fuel of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> middle-east.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  rely only on their own resources, the domestic prices would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> soar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation costs will increase, all bills would go high,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  halcyon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  days now reigning in the US may end up in a dated 'concept' of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'armed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> rebellion' ( the citizens have more liberty to carry weapons than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> place) for which they have already put in place the Homeland
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Security
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  'idea'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  instead of 'concept'!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assam at assamnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sushnta Kar
>>>>>>>>>>>>> সুশান্ত কর
>>>>>>>>>>>>> তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> আমার ব্লগগুলি:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের
>>>>>>>>>>>>> প্রধান
>>>>>>>>>>>>> শিক্ষা"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> রবীন্দ্রনাথ
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> assam mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Sushnta Kar
>>>>>>>>>> সুশান্ত কর
>>>>>>>>>> তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> আমার ব্লগগুলি:
>>>>>>>>>> http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>> http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>> http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>> আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান'
>>>>>>>>>> http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> শিক্ষা"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> রবীন্দ্রনাথ
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> assam mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sushnta Kar
>>>>>>>> সুশান্ত কর
>>>>>>>> তিনসুকিয়া, আসাম
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> আমার ব্লগগুলি:
>>>>>>>> http://sushantakar40.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> http://ishankonerkahini.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> http://ishankonerkotha.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> আমার সম্পাদিত 'প্রজ্ঞান'
>>>>>>>> http://pragyan06now.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/pragyan06now
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "স্বাজাত্যের অহমিকার থেকে মুক্তি দানের শিক্ষাই, আজকের দিনের প্রধান
>>>>>>>> শিক্ষা"
>>>>>>>> রবীন্দ্রনাথ
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