[Assam] ULFA no longer a force to be reckoned with, IB tells Centre - Sentinel
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at gmail.com
Thu Jun 10 09:02:19 PDT 2010
Must I :-) ?
On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:17 AM, kamal deka wrote:
> So,spur me to advance some overstatement:-)
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:07 AM, kamal deka wrote:
>>
>>> I remain unconvinced though!!
>>
>>
>> **** Now THAT is an understatement :-).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> K
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Chan Mahanta
>>> <cmahanta at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *** Does not require any rebuttal at all. It is self-explanatory
>>>> and
>>>> indicting :-).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 9:54 AM, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Outlandish remark does not constitute a proper rebuttal.Needs
>>>>> elaboration to buttress one's reasoning.
>>>>> KJD
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow! This is just not brilliant--it is stellar reasoning.
>>>>>> Philosophically, politically and oh so secularly :-)!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 8:48 AM, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Islam and secularism are just like incompatible blood groups.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest
>>>>>>> form, it is
>>>>>>> a complete, total, 100% system of life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and
>>>>>>> military
>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>> The religious component is a beard for all of the other
>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a
>>>>>>> country to
>>>>>>> agitate for their religious privileges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse
>>>>>>> societies
>>>>>>> agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> other components tend to creep in as well..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's how it works:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a
>>>>>>> peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.
>>>>>>> This is the case in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> United States -- Muslim 0..6%
>>>>>>> Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
>>>>>>> Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
>>>>>>> China -- Muslim 1.8%
>>>>>>> Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
>>>>>>> Norway -- Muslim 1.8%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic
>>>>>>> minorities
>>>>>>> and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the
>>>>>>> jails and
>>>>>>> among street gangs.
>>>>>>> This is happening in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Denmark -- Muslim 2%
>>>>>>> Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
>>>>>>> United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
>>>>>>> Spain -- Muslim 4%
>>>>>>> Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in
>>>>>>> proportion to
>>>>>>> their percentage of the population.
>>>>>>> For example, they will push for the introduction of halal
>>>>>>> (clean by
>>>>>>> Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation
>>>>>>> jobs for
>>>>>>> Muslims.
>>>>>>> They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature
>>>>>>> halal on
>>>>>>> their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.
>>>>>>> This is occurring in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> France -- Muslim 8%
>>>>>>> Philippines -- 5%
>>>>>>> Sweden -- Muslim 5%
>>>>>>> Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
>>>>>>> The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
>>>>>>> Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to
>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>> them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the
>>>>>>> Islamic Law.
>>>>>>> The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> entire world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When Muslims approach 10% of the population,
>>>>>>> they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint
>>>>>>> about their
>>>>>>> conditions. In Paris ,
>>>>>>> we are already seeing car-burnings.
>>>>>>> Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> threats,
>>>>>>> such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and
>>>>>>> films
>>>>>>> about Islam.
>>>>>>> Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections,
>>>>>>> in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guyana -- Muslim 10%
>>>>>>> India -- Muslim 13.4%
>>>>>>> Israel -- Muslim 16%
>>>>>>> Kenya -- Muslim 10%
>>>>>>> Russia -- Muslim 15%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting,
>>>>>>> jihad
>>>>>>> militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>> churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror
>>>>>>> attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
>>>>>>> Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
>>>>>>> Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of
>>>>>>> nonbelievers of
>>>>>>> all other religions (including nonconforming Muslims),
>>>>>>> sporadic ethnic
>>>>>>> cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and
>>>>>>> Jizya, the
>>>>>>> tax placed on infidels, such as in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Albania -- Muslim 70%
>>>>>>> Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
>>>>>>> Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
>>>>>>> Sudan -- Muslim 70%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some
>>>>>>> State-run
>>>>>>> ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations
>>>>>>> drive out
>>>>>>> the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim,
>>>>>>> such as has been experienced and in some ways is ongoing in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
>>>>>>> Egypt -- Muslim 90%
>>>>>>> Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
>>>>>>> Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
>>>>>>> Iran -- Muslim 98%
>>>>>>> Iraq -- Muslim 97%
>>>>>>> Jordan -- Muslim 92%
>>>>>>> Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
>>>>>>> Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
>>>>>>> Palestine -- Muslim 99%
>>>>>>> Syria -- Muslim 90%
>>>>>>> Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
>>>>>>> Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
>>>>>>> United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic
>>>>>>> House
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Peace.
>>>>>>> Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a
>>>>>>> Muslim,
>>>>>>> the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only
>>>>>>> word,
>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>> as in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
>>>>>>> Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
>>>>>>> Somalia -- Muslim 100%
>>>>>>> Yemen -- Muslim 100%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> KJD
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Jyotirmoy Sharma
>>>>>>> <jyotirmoy.sharma at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> God bless India and Indians if India, Pak and Bangladesh form a
>>>>>>>> federation. I thought the countries split because we could no
>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>> live together. Let's face the reality. We are better off as
>>>>>>>> we are.
>>>>>>>> India is a developing country and is marching ahead inspite
>>>>>>>> of all
>>>>>>>> it's problems. India is one of the most unique country in the
>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>> When western countries preach about values like democracy,
>>>>>>>> equality,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> think .. would they ever allow someone from a religious
>>>>>>>> minority
>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>> to occupy the most powerful post in the country? It hasn't
>>>>>>>> yet taken
>>>>>>>> place and I doubt it will. Netters can correct me. Even Barak
>>>>>>>> Obama
>>>>>>>> had to hide his middle name during the campaign, although he
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> converted to Chritianity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While Bangladesh, under the current regime ( and even Sri
>>>>>>>> Lanka )
>>>>>>>> seems to be taking a strong resolve to root out terrorism,
>>>>>>>> Pakistan
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> a failed state. Under no circumstance would they( meaning Pak
>>>>>>>> govt )
>>>>>>>> give up the idea of Kashmir. Infact no one can form a govt in
>>>>>>>> Pak
>>>>>>>> without having Kashmir in its agenda( It's a truth which most
>>>>>>>> Pakistanis will acknowledge. It's a different matter that most
>>>>>>>> educated everyday Pakistani citizens wouldn't be too worried
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> what happening in Indian Kashmir ). That is precisely the
>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Pakistan. Rather than worrying about improving their own
>>>>>>>> country ,
>>>>>>>> their policies are India centric.
>>>>>>>> Now I read of ISI's direct involvement in 26/11( David
>>>>>>>> Headley's
>>>>>>>> confession .. I am sure some netters will even negate the
>>>>>>>> validity of
>>>>>>>> such confession )
>>>>>>>> How many more Kasabs, Afzal Gurus does India want? We keep
>>>>>>>> extending
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> friendly hand and everytime there is a kick in our butt. No
>>>>>>>> wonder,
>>>>>>>> India is taken for a ride by all.
>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Dilip and Dil Deka
>>>>>>>> <dilipdeka at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Netters,
>>>>>>>>> Remember India, Bangladesh and Pakistan used to be one country
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>> the artificial borders were drawn. These borders did not
>>>>>>>>> draw lines
>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>> and change people's language, literature and culture
>>>>>>>>> overnight. So
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> you distinguish someone from Bangladesh in the middle of
>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>> people in
>>>>>>>>> India? Thus they are not detectable or deportable. Get used
>>>>>>>>> to it, I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> been saying it for years - migration across artificial
>>>>>>>>> borders will
>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>> happening, and you and I cannot do anything about it. Not even
>>>>>>>>> mighty
>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>> GOI cn solve this problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only solution is a new federation of the three countries so
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> can freely move across the borders in the pursuit of
>>>>>>>>> livelihood and
>>>>>>>>> business, in stead of pursuing religious or political
>>>>>>>>> ideology. I
>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> sounds like wishful thinking but it is possible if the social
>>>>>>>>> leaders
>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>> their minds to it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's your take on it?
>>>>>>>>> Dilip
>>>>>>>>> Houston
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from
>>>>>>>>> around the
>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>> <assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 9:17:15 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA no longer a force to be reckoned
>>>>>>>>> with, IB
>>>>>>>>> tells Centre - Sentinel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those are very clever comments no doubt!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is not-so-clever, however, is the fact that the
>>>>>>>>> 'democratically
>>>>>>>>> elected'
>>>>>>>>> desi-govt/s. have neither been able to find or deport them.
>>>>>>>>> So what
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> desi-demokrasy enthusiasts say about that? Is there a
>>>>>>>>> problem here
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> desi-sorkar, one that the clever netters so glibly put their
>>>>>>>>> trust
>>>>>>>>> on,
>>>>>>>>> or is it a
>>>>>>>>> problem with Uttam or is it a problem with the glib ones
>>>>>>>>> here ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> KJD,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am a little intrigued that there is quite possibly this
>>>>>>>>>> notion
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> that there are NO illegal B'deshis in Assam,
>>>>>>>>>> and that all this is a political ploy of some kind. Though, I
>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>> met
>>>>>>>>>> any illegal (or Undocumented - in PC speak) B'deshis, we keep
>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> hearing about vast numbers of B'deshis coming into Assam/
>>>>>>>>>> NE, and
>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>> as far
>>>>>>>>>> as Delhi, W. Bengal etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The previous BD PM categorically stated there are none, and
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Assam Govt. was able to identify 6 or 7 B'deshis for
>>>>>>>>>> deportation.
>>>>>>>>>> Heck, and if sections of people also believe that there are
>>>>>>>>>> none, I
>>>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>>>> there are no illegal B'deshis in Assam.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The other thing about North Indians grabbing land in Assam is
>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> new. I have never heard about this (not that it matters) and
>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>> close to it. If these are 'criminal' acts, then it quite
>>>>>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>>>>>> pervasive
>>>>>>>>>> in other parts of India, and just making inroads into Assam.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --Ram
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:18 PM, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm! I haven't met any either. Next time we visit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assam, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> make it point to meet one :-).<<<
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> RS,
>>>>>>>>>>> I am sure,there must be plenty of merry andrews in Assam
>>>>>>>>>>> as well
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the Net.However,in terms of buffoonery,he or she will not
>>>>>>>>>>> be able
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> match the one,who expects an illegal Bangladeshis to put
>>>>>>>>>>> on a ID
>>>>>>>>>>> tag
>>>>>>>>>>> hanging around his neck with the purpose of divulging his
>>>>>>>>>>> nationality
>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> KJD
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Ram Sarangapani
>>>>>>>>>>> <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Uttam,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem is I cannot see anything in isolation. For me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> connected; we can see the past; but cannot forecast the
>>>>>>>>>>>> future:
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>>>>> of: -).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree there is value in viewing issues in this manner.
>>>>>>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>> issues (like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or similar
>>>>>>>>>>>> ones)
>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely no end. The time line can be shifted at will,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and how
>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wishes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is why, it is often a good idea to compartmentalize
>>>>>>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> start at some base line.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I have not yet personally met a confirmed illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bangladeshi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> migrant ascertained to be one till date. Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm! I haven't met any either. Next time we visit Assam,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> make it point to meet one :-).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But, there is the other possibility, since you have met
>>>>>>>>>>>> one, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> either, then we can both be sure there aren't any illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>> B'deshis
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Assam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The recent killings near Dr. Dhaniram Baruah's Heart
>>>>>>>>>>>>> City
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> attributed to land grabbing. Some business people from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowbelt
>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> huge contiguous plot of land on south bank near Guwahati
>>>>>>>>>>>> to build
>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> township.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember this. We were at Guwahati around that time.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> B'lore, and some miscreants destroyed a big portion of his
>>>>>>>>>>>> hospital.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you claim some Hindiwalls or the like were behind
>>>>>>>>>>>> this. And
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> proves
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> what, Uttam? That these Hindiwallas are out to get us?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no point in merely condemning the armed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> activity by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> section of the Assamese. Being irrational, these
>>>>>>>>>>>> activities would
>>>>>>>>>>>> surely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> give you the opportunity to sneer at them. But that will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stoke the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> fire than to douse it: do not you suggest we adhere to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'non->violence'?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> got to feel the fragile Assamese psyche in relation to its
>>>>>>>>>>>> foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> hinterland ( some people say colony within a >colony!)
>>>>>>>>>>>> economics.(
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it 'victim mentality' which is not very empathic...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whether I empathize or not hardly matters, the 'Victim
>>>>>>>>>>>> mentality'
>>>>>>>>>>>> exists
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite well for that matter. In fact, this is a favorite
>>>>>>>>>>>> tool used
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> armed
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> rebellions all over the world, and maybe even countries.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Ram da
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:42 PM, uttam borthakur
>>>>>>>>>>>> <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Ram Da,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem is I cannot see anything in isolation. For me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected; we can see the past; but cannot forecast the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> future:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of: -).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since I have to run this time, I just point out a few
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just ponder: -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I have not yet personally met a confirmed illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bangladeshi
>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrant ascertained to be one till date. Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The recent killings near Dr. Dhaniram Baruah's Heart
>>>>>>>>>>>>> City
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributed to land grabbing. Some business people from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowbelt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge contiguous plot of land on south bank near Guwahati
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> township. In Chandrapur area, the Oxomiya henchmen of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowbelt
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> houses are intimidating, killing, demolishing fences,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> devour the land. Local resistance of villagers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> organised in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fear of losing homestead, are somewhat delaying the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Political
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigwigs , Ministersrunning Assam are in cahoots.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Policemen are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these are daily news. Recently, I went on a survey. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was aghast
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that annual periodic pattas are given to the settlers;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the marching orders after giving them some money and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> agreement;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the basis of such agreement petty revenue for last
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fiver
>>>>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> paid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the name of these political bigwigs, ministers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> northerners,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> journalists etc. who have occupied huge chunks of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beautiful
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forest,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lands with tremendous sight of the mighty Brahmaputra.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or so of the revenue you get a Myadi Patta. For the poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> settlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge amount; for the carpetbaggers it is pittance. ( My
>>>>>>>>>>>>> take on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all colonial masters need local henchmen / dalals. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rich from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> cowbelt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will always need their paid goons to carry out their dirty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 'root
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause' is the money and greed of the masters: the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> principal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspect
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contradiction:-))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. For various historical reasons, the processs of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assamese
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> formation (in the modern sense; I do not begin with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Narakasura:-))
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been very sturdy and this inherent weakness has led to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knee-jerk
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> reactions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weakening the process rather than bolstering it. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> merely condemning the armed activity by a small section
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assamese.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being irrational, these activities would surely give you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sneer at them. But that will rather stoke the fire than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to douse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you suggest we adhere to 'non-violence'? You got to feel
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragile Assamese psyche in relation to its foundation in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hinterland
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people say colony within a colony!) economics.( you call
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'victim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentality' which is not very empathic...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's about it for now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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