[Assam] ULFA no longer a force to be reckoned with, IB tells Centre - Sentinel

Thu Jun 10 09:15:38 PDT 2010

Not under any duress--at free will only:-)
K

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com> wrote:
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>  Must I :-) ?
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> On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:17 AM, kamal deka wrote:
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>> So,spur me to advance some overstatement:-)
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>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:07 AM, kamal deka wrote:
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>>>> I remain unconvinced though!!
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>>>
>>> **** Now THAT is an understatement :-).
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>>>> K
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *** Does not require any rebuttal at all. It is self-explanatory and
>>>>> indicting :-).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 9:54 AM, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Outlandish remark does not constitute a proper rebuttal.Needs
>>>>>> elaboration to buttress one's reasoning.
>>>>>> KJD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow! This is just not brilliant--it is stellar reasoning.
>>>>>>> Philosophically, politically and oh so secularly :-)!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 8:48 AM, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Islam and secularism are just like incompatible blood groups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> a complete, total, 100% system of life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and
>>>>>>>> military
>>>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>>> The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> agitate for their religious privileges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies
>>>>>>>> agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the
>>>>>>>> other components tend to creep in as well..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's how it works:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any
>>>>>>>> given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a
>>>>>>>> peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.
>>>>>>>> This is the case in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> United States -- Muslim 0..6%
>>>>>>>> Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
>>>>>>>> Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
>>>>>>>> China -- Muslim 1.8%
>>>>>>>> Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
>>>>>>>> Norway -- Muslim 1.8%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities
>>>>>>>> and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> among street gangs.
>>>>>>>> This is happening in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Denmark -- Muslim 2%
>>>>>>>> Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
>>>>>>>> United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
>>>>>>>> Spain -- Muslim 4%
>>>>>>>> Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to
>>>>>>>> their percentage of the population.
>>>>>>>> For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by
>>>>>>>> Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for
>>>>>>>> Muslims.
>>>>>>>> They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.
>>>>>>>> This is occurring in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> France -- Muslim 8%
>>>>>>>> Philippines -- 5%
>>>>>>>> Sweden -- Muslim 5%
>>>>>>>> Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
>>>>>>>> The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
>>>>>>>> Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow
>>>>>>>> them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the
>>>>>>>> Islamic Law.
>>>>>>>> The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the
>>>>>>>> entire world.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When Muslims approach 10% of the population,
>>>>>>>> they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> conditions. In Paris ,
>>>>>>>> we are already seeing car-burnings.
>>>>>>>> Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and
>>>>>>>> threats,
>>>>>>>> such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films
>>>>>>>> about Islam.
>>>>>>>> Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guyana -- Muslim 10%
>>>>>>>> India -- Muslim 13.4%
>>>>>>>> Israel -- Muslim 16%
>>>>>>>> Kenya -- Muslim 10%
>>>>>>>> Russia -- Muslim 15%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad
>>>>>>>> militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian
>>>>>>>> churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror
>>>>>>>> attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
>>>>>>>> Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
>>>>>>>> Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of nonbelievers
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> all other religions (including nonconforming Muslims), sporadic
>>>>>>>> ethnic
>>>>>>>> cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the
>>>>>>>> tax placed on infidels, such as in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Albania -- Muslim 70%
>>>>>>>> Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
>>>>>>>> Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
>>>>>>>> Sudan -- Muslim 70%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some
>>>>>>>> State-run
>>>>>>>> ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out
>>>>>>>> the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim,
>>>>>>>> such as has been experienced and in some ways is ongoing in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
>>>>>>>> Egypt -- Muslim 90%
>>>>>>>> Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
>>>>>>>> Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
>>>>>>>> Iran -- Muslim 98%
>>>>>>>> Iraq -- Muslim 97%
>>>>>>>> Jordan -- Muslim 92%
>>>>>>>> Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
>>>>>>>> Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
>>>>>>>> Palestine -- Muslim 99%
>>>>>>>> Syria -- Muslim 90%
>>>>>>>> Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
>>>>>>>> Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
>>>>>>>> United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> Peace.
>>>>>>>> Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim,
>>>>>>>> the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word,
>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>> as in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
>>>>>>>> Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
>>>>>>>> Somalia -- Muslim 100%
>>>>>>>> Yemen -- Muslim 100%
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> KJD
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Jyotirmoy Sharma
>>>>>>>> <jyotirmoy.sharma at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> God bless India and Indians if India, Pak and Bangladesh form a
>>>>>>>>> federation. I thought the countries split because we could no
>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>> live together. Let's face the reality. We are better off as we are.
>>>>>>>>> India is a developing country and is marching ahead inspite of all
>>>>>>>>> it's problems. India is one of the most unique country in the
>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>> When western countries preach about values like democracy,
>>>>>>>>> equality,
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> think .. would they ever allow someone from a religious minority
>>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>> to occupy the most powerful post in the country? It hasn't yet
>>>>>>>>> taken
>>>>>>>>> place and I doubt it will. Netters can correct me. Even Barak Obama
>>>>>>>>> had to hide his middle name during the campaign, although he has
>>>>>>>>> converted to Chritianity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> While Bangladesh, under the current regime ( and even Sri Lanka )
>>>>>>>>> seems to be taking a strong resolve to root out terrorism, Pakistan
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> a failed state. Under no circumstance would they( meaning Pak govt
>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>> give up the idea of Kashmir. Infact no one can form a govt in Pak
>>>>>>>>> without having Kashmir in its agenda( It's a truth which  most
>>>>>>>>> Pakistanis will acknowledge. It's a different matter that most
>>>>>>>>> educated  everyday Pakistani citizens wouldn't be too worried about
>>>>>>>>> what happening in Indian Kashmir ). That is precisely the problem
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> Pakistan. Rather than worrying about improving their own country ,
>>>>>>>>> their policies are India centric.
>>>>>>>>> Now I read of ISI's direct involvement in 26/11( David Headley's
>>>>>>>>> confession .. I am sure some netters will even negate the validity
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> such confession )
>>>>>>>>> How many more Kasabs, Afzal Gurus does India want? We keep
>>>>>>>>> extending
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> friendly hand and everytime there is a kick in our butt. No wonder,
>>>>>>>>> India is taken for a ride by all.
>>>>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Dilip and Dil Deka
>>>>>>>>> <dilipdeka at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Netters,
>>>>>>>>>> Remember India, Bangladesh and Pakistan used to be one country
>>>>>>>>>>  before
>>>>>>>>>> the artificial borders were drawn. These borders did not draw
>>>>>>>>>> lines
>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>> and change people's language, literature and culture overnight. So
>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> you distinguish someone from Bangladesh in the middle of similar
>>>>>>>>>> people in
>>>>>>>>>> India? Thus they are not detectable or deportable. Get used to it,
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> been saying it for years - migration across artificial borders
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>> happening, and you and I cannot do anything about it. Not even
>>>>>>>>>> mighty
>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>> GOI cn solve this problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Only solution is a new federation of the three countries so that
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> can freely move across the borders in the pursuit of livelihood
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> business, in stead of pursuing religious or political ideology. I
>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> sounds like  wishful thinking but it is possible if the social
>>>>>>>>>> leaders
>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>> their minds to it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's your take on it?
>>>>>>>>>> Dilip
>>>>>>>>>> Houston
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>>> <assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 9:17:15 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA no longer a force to be reckoned with,
>>>>>>>>>> IB
>>>>>>>>>> tells Centre - Sentinel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Those are very clever comments no doubt!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is not-so-clever, however, is the fact that the
>>>>>>>>>> 'democratically
>>>>>>>>>> elected'
>>>>>>>>>> desi-govt/s. have neither been able to find or deport them. So
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>> desi-demokrasy enthusiasts say about that? Is there a problem here
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> desi-sorkar, one that the clever netters so glibly put their trust
>>>>>>>>>> on,
>>>>>>>>>> or is it a
>>>>>>>>>> problem with Uttam or is it a problem with the glib ones here ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> KJD,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am a little intrigued that there is quite possibly this notion
>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> that there are NO illegal B'deshis in Assam,
>>>>>>>>>>> and that all this is a political ploy of some kind. Though, I
>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>> met
>>>>>>>>>>> any illegal (or Undocumented - in PC speak) B'deshis, we keep
>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> hearing about vast numbers of B'deshis coming into Assam/NE, and
>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>> as far
>>>>>>>>>>> as Delhi, W. Bengal etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The previous BD PM categorically stated there are none, and one
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Assam Govt. was able to identify 6 or 7 B'deshis for deportation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, and if sections of people also believe that there are none,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>>>>> there are no illegal B'deshis in Assam.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The other thing about North Indians grabbing land in Assam is
>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>> new. I have never heard about this (not that it matters) and
>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>> close to it. If these are 'criminal' acts, then it quite possibly
>>>>>>>>>>> pervasive
>>>>>>>>>>> in other parts of India, and just making inroads into Assam.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --Ram
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:18 PM, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm! I haven't met any either. Next time we visit Assam, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> make it point to meet one :-).<<<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> RS,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am sure,there must be plenty of merry andrews in Assam as well
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Net.However,in terms of buffoonery,he or she will not be
>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> match the one,who expects an illegal Bangladeshis to put on a ID
>>>>>>>>>>>> tag
>>>>>>>>>>>> hanging around his neck with the purpose of divulging his
>>>>>>>>>>>> nationality
>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>> KJD
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Ram Sarangapani
>>>>>>>>>>>> <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Uttam,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem is I cannot see anything in isolation. For me the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected; we can see the past; but cannot forecast the future:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of: -).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree there is value in viewing issues in this manner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues (like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or similar ones)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely no end. The time line can be shifted at will, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wishes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is why, it is often a good idea to compartmentalize
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> start at some base line.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I have not yet personally met a confirmed illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bangladeshi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrant ascertained to be one till date. Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm! I haven't met any either. Next time we visit Assam, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make it point to meet one :-).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, there is the other possibility, since you have met one,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> either, then we can both be sure there aren't any illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> B'deshis
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Assam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The recent killings near Dr. Dhaniram Baruah's Heart City
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributed to land grabbing. Some business people from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowbelt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge contiguous plot of land on south bank near Guwahati to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> township.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember this. We were at Guwahati around that time. The Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> B'lore, and some miscreants destroyed a big portion of his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hospital.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you claim some Hindiwalls or the like were behind this. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> proves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what, Uttam? That these Hindiwallas are out to get us?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no point in merely condemning the armed activity by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> section of the Assamese. Being irrational, these activities
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> surely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give you the opportunity to sneer at them. But that will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stoke the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fire than to douse it: do not you suggest we adhere to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'non->violence'?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got to feel the fragile Assamese psyche in relation to its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hinterland ( some people say colony within a >colony!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> economics.(
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it 'victim mentality' which is not very empathic...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whether I empathize or not hardly matters, the 'Victim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentality'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite well for that matter. In fact, this is a favorite tool
>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> armed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebellions all over the world, and maybe even countries.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Ram da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:42 PM, uttam borthakur
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Ram Da,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My problem is I cannot see anything in isolation. For me the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected; we can see the past; but cannot forecast the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of: -).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since I have to run this time, I just point out a few things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just ponder: -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. I have not yet personally met a confirmed illegal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bangladeshi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migrant ascertained to be one till date. Have you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The recent killings near Dr. Dhaniram Baruah's Heart City
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributed to land grabbing. Some business people from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowbelt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge contiguous plot of land on south bank near Guwahati to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> township. In Chandrapur area, the Oxomiya henchmen of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cowbelt
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> houses are intimidating, killing, demolishing fences, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devour the land. Local resistance of villagers, who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> organised in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fear of losing homestead, are somewhat delaying the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Political
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigwigs , Ministersrunning Assam are in cahoots. Policemen are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these are daily news. Recently, I went on a survey. I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aghast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that annual periodic pattas are given to the settlers; they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the marching orders after giving them some money and a back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> agreement;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the basis of such agreement petty revenue for last fiver
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> paid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the name of these political bigwigs, ministers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> northerners,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> journalists etc. who have occupied huge chunks of beautiful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forest,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> hill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lands with tremendous sight of the mighty Brahmaputra. If you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> times
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or so of the revenue you get a Myadi Patta. For the poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge amount; for the carpetbaggers it is pittance. ( My take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all colonial masters need local henchmen / dalals. The rich
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> cowbelt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will always need their paid goons to carry out their dirty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'root
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause' is the money and greed of the masters: the principal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contradiction:-))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. For various historical reasons, the processs of Assamese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formation (in the modern sense; I do not begin with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Narakasura:-))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been very sturdy and this inherent weakness has led to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knee-jerk
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> reactions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weakening the process rather than bolstering it. There is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> merely condemning the armed activity by a small section of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assamese.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being irrational, these activities would surely give you the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sneer at them. But that will rather stoke the fire than to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> douse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you suggest we adhere to 'non-violence'? You got to feel the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragile Assamese psyche in relation to its foundation in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hinterland
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people say colony within a colony!) economics.( you call it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'victim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentality' which is not very empathic...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's about it for now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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