[Assam] Sovereignty Muddle - The Sentinel

Sat May 1 10:27:32 PDT 2010

Yes, KJD. This world we live in is a strange world.

The 'root cause' is because Assam, is unfortunate that it has been blighted
by terrorism for the pat so many decades. The effects of such terrorism has
had immeasurable direct, negative impact on a state that was already lagging
behind in many spheres. While India itself has felt some impact, the thrust
of it has always been Assam.

To lay the blame on security forces (that came on invitation) is pure
deflection.  These forces can be withdrawn at anytime the State machinery
pleases - and won't that great. The terrorists can then have a filed day,
with no one to stop them.

--Ram

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>My contention is that the security forces are not in the NE of their own
> sweet will. They are there because the civil authorities want them
> there<<<<
> RS,
> For a wonder,the security forces have become favorite whipping boy
> now!! You have hit the mark.What is the army up against?They are not
> there to have fun and frolic.Fact: you cannot talk about terrorism and
> avoid ULFA.
> KJD
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> .On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Uttam,
> >
> >>It is understandable that security forces would not want 'peace' at any
> > cost in this place. It is the
> >>goose that lays golden eggs for the totally demoralised forces that
> thrive
> > on 'corruption'; security of the country
> >>and well being of its people have not been the concern, especially of
> their
> > bigwigs, who are busy in selling
> >>lands, molesting junior officers, allocating contracts and generally
> having
> > a good time on tax payers money.
> >
> > I am missing the logic here somehow. Assuming that the security forces
> are
> > corrupt etc. but why on earth would they put their lives at risk while
> > making a fast buck? My question is, why not sit very comfortably in the
> AC
> > halls of Delhi or Mumbai, than wade through rough terrain in the
> Indo-B'desh
> > border chasing terrorists?
> >
> > My contention is that the security forces are not in the NE of their own
> > sweet will. They are there because the civil authorities want them there.
> > If I understand correctly, the CM of Assam MUST request the CRPF or other
> > Central forces. Central forces just don't materialize.
> >
> > Further, if the ULFA did not go attacking the state machinery and
> civilian
> > soft targets, there would be absolutely no need to have these 'corrupt'
> > security forces in Assam.
> >
> > Now, your argument fits the terror groups very well. They of all parties
> > that are involved in this mess, do not want peace at any cost. 'Cause,
> their
> > whole movement is based on threats, kidnappings, killing, plunder, and
> > extortion drives. Their only MO is to keep their supporters  (and India
> > haters) believing that they are fight for a "just cause". As long as that
> > yarn can be spun, and there are enough people taking it all in, they are
> > set, and that is how they thrive. Why kill the golden goose?
> >
> > Now, I do believe big bucks are made in many quarters in keeping the
> issue
> > alive.
> >
> >>When a huge chunk of India is either under Pak  or Chinese or Bangladeshi
> >> occupation, it is only their media hype that makes them look like
> heroes,
> >>it is only their media hype that makes them look like heroes. No wonder
> > they are called HAARGILLAS
> >
> > While it is nice to squarely put the blame here on the security forces
> and
> > call them haargillas, I think they are quite often handicapped by
> political
> > designs, and some politically correct policies in India. The Kashmir
> issue
> > with Pakistan and with China has festered and grown into something else.
> > Could have been dealt with a long time ago.
> >
> > BTW: If I am not mistaken, China occupies Aksai Chin valley of Kashmir
> since
> > the 1950s. Basically, China does not accept the British separation
> > boundaries. In doing so, China took more from Pakistan (as allocated by
> the
> > Brits), and less from India.
> >
> > Both India and Pakistan were new born states, and there was no way they
> > could have defended an expansionist China.
> > Interestingly, the Kashmiri insurgency started only in 1983 (much later
> than
> > Ulfa).
> > So, the security forces in Kashmir, have to not only defend the country
> at
> > its borders with Pakistan (and China to an extent), but also to defend
> the
> > country from Pakistanis who have moved in and settled down in Kashmir
> (with
> > friends welcoming them).
> >
> >
> > --Ram da
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:58 PM, UTTAM BORTHAKUR <
> uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Srijut Deka/ Ram Da,
> >>
> >> In Srijut Deka's opinion, 'peace' does not have a chance in Assam in
> >> forseeable future. May be he is right in thinking so.
> >>
> >> But, 'The Sentinel' and some people in the media may have a different
> >> agenda. Some of them have been toeing the lines professed by Military
> >> Intelligence and armed forces for quite some time. It is understandable
> >> that
> >> security forces would not want 'peace' at any cost in this place. It is
> the
> >> goose that lays golden eggs for the totally demoralised forces that
> thrive
> >> on 'corruption'; security of the country and well being of its people
> have
> >> not been the concern, especially of their bigwigs, who are busy in
> selling
> >> lands, molesting junior officers, allocating contracts and generally
> having
> >> a good time on tax payers money. Their sacrifices are akin to the
> >> sacrifices
> >> of the leaders of the Assam movement who have made it big in wealth and
> >> power , as compensation to their 'sacrifice'.
> >>
> >> When a huge chunk of India is either under Pak  or Chinese or
> Bangladeshi
> >> occupation, it is only their media hype that makes them look like
> heroes.
> >> Media too are no saints. No wonder they are called HAARGILLAS, when the
> >> politicians and corrupt officers are called XOGUNS. Regular supply of
> >> whisky
> >> crates from army canteen helps these spokespersons of the armed/
> security
> >> forces to write what suits the masters:-)
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