[Assam] From the Sentinel -Letters to the Editor 17/05/2010
subhash medhi
medhi2006 at gmail.com
Thu May 20 05:35:53 PDT 2010
How funny!! Mr. Prafulla Mahanta is demanding DNA testing to identify
Bangladeshis!!!
There's no such "Bangladeshi" gene that DNA testing could be done to
prove the nationality of suspected Bangladeshis.Bangladeshis do not
belong to any different ethnicity than many of the communities of
Assam/India.Besides, they may vary more amongst themselves than they
differ from the Assamese. Similarly, Assamese may also vary more
amongst themselves.
DNA testing can only be used to identify paternity/maternity. It can
also be used to identify racial affinities which though is not 100%
reliable.
But it can never be used to identify somebody's nationality.
What a funny joke some people are playing?
subhash
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> 3. A Rebellion of my Own (Chan Mahanta)
> 4. Re: A Rebellion of my Own (Rajen Barua)
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> (Chan Mahanta)
> 7. Re: A Rebellion of my Own (UTTAM BORTHAKUR)
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> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 18:59:40 +0800
> Subject: Re: [Assam] From the Sentinel -Letters to the Editor 17/05/2010
> You must have read the Sentinel today "On the trail of a Bangladeshi"
> http://www.sentinelassam.com/mainnews/story.php?sec=1&subsec=0&id=36491&dtP=2010-05-19&ppr=1#36491
> This shows why these people have no problems showing domicile
> certificates, ration card from Assam. Wouldn't be surprised if their
> certificates are issued from Dispur next. Why does Hindu religion have
> to come in the picture? Nagaland, Meghalaya, Mizoram are Christian
> dominated. They have the same issue with the mass Bangladeshi influx(
> be it Muslims or Hindus ).
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> Not all Bodos know the Bodo language, not all Ahoms know the Tai
> language too. The same applies to Axomiya as well. Those who like like
> their language and culture will make pains to ensure that it is passed
> on the next generation. There will be others who wouldn't care. Should
> a Bangladeshi citizen just cross the border, learn the local language
> and all we do is open our arms? What if they try and secede to
> Bangladesh once they obtain a majority.
> Hiteswar Saikia and Tarun Gogoi have famously said " I do not see any
> Bangladeshi in Assam", whereas leaders of neighbouring states say that
> they cannot let their state turn into a Assam or Tripura.
> Can God save Assam? Not, when people do not want to saved in the first place.
> JS
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> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 07:13:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Assam] From the Sentinel -Letters to the Editor 17/05/2010
> Very well said Uttam!
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> BTW, what is this DNA testing supposed to prove or disprove? This
> sounds to me like a case of "olpo-bidya bhoyonkori".
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>>Second proposition is that a Bangladeshi can be identified from
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>> mannerisms and dress
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> *** This is EXACTLY what one of the proponents of the recently enacted Arizona law
> against illegal Mexican immigrants said as an explanation that it is not
> racial profiling, and is about as despicable and mindless.
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> On May 18, 2010, at 10:04 PM, UTTAM BORTHAKUR wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Their mannerisms, dress and language would obviously be different from
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>> a genuine Assamese Muslim.
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>> **** The first proposition is that whoever is not "Assamese Muslim" is
>> a Bangladeshi, non- Indian. Even Mr. Togadia would blush to make such
>> a public statement, though the religious bigots harbor such views and
>> propagate such ideas through whisper campaigns in the safety of their
>> houses.
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>> Second proposition is that a Bangladeshi can be identified from
>> mannerisms and dress. Some zealots at Titabor rounded up some youths
>> on such presumptions based on assumptions. Finally, they were found to
>> be Kamrupi Muslims from Mukalmua and even AASU had to denounce such
>> action. If mannerism/ dress could help identify the Bangladeshis, the
>> law has not prescribed such identification mark. Moreover, even AASU
>> is pressing for DNA testing. Why one needs DNA testing if the 'Lungi'
>> is enough identification? Such a proposition is infantile; such
>> zealotry on the part of the Assamese caste Hindu psyche from
>> emanating from ivory towers has contributed in a great extent towards
>> impeding the growth of Assamese as a nation. It is the 'char' dwelling
>> Muslims of Assam, who go to Assamese schools, write in Assamese, speak
>> the language better than many of us and contribute in great way
>> towards its culture. It is the likes of Ismail Hussain who are doing
>> great works in the field of Assamese Vaishnavite culture. Yes, one has
>> to be blind not to see these things and come up with puerile
>> suggestions bred by bigotry and ignorance about Assam. I dare many"
>> Assamese" schooled in English Medium Schools who cannot even complete
>> a sentence without soiling it with English or Hindi, and many of these
>> children are ashamed to speak Assamese at home. Recently, I have met a
>> young girl, who migrated to Canada with parents at the age of 3 or 4.
>> She studies in a Canadian University: speaks fluent Assamese sans
>> English words and writes it too. She was surprised that her Guwahati
>> cousins were conversing in English with her and between them when she
>> talked with them in Assamese.
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>>>>>>>>> Most would not even speak a few words of
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>> Assamese.
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>> **** In fact, many Assamese in Assam would not complete a correct
>> Assamese sentence without throwing in a word or two of English and
>> Hindi. So, we cannot tell a Bangladeshi from Assamese on the basis of
>> one's pouting.
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>>>>>>>> One would have to be blind to not accept the reality.
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>> Blind persons are capable of accepting their reality; the one who puts
>> on blinkers for own vested interests and inherent sense of guilt, may
>> not.
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>> Their mannerisms, dress and language would obviously be different from
>> a genuine Assamese Muslim. Most would not even speak a few words of
>> Assamese.
>> One would have to be blind to not accept the reality. No wonder Assam
>> is a breeding ground. Most people are blind, others chose to be blind.
>> JS
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> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <assam at assamnet.org>
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:21:13 -0500
> Subject: [Assam] A Rebellion of my Own
> Not to make light of the struggles of the oppressed in India's heartland and frontiers, but I have found myself
> with sort of a Maoist rebellion right here in the land of capitalism :-).
>
> After a number of years of mulling, I have decided to take the plunge into bee-keeping this year. In February I attended a full day
> seminar on bee-keeping, while traveling in Assam in March ordered bee packages and queens via the internet and thereafter attended monthly
> meetings, on-hands training sessions on assembling hives, comb frames, installing bee packages and queens into hives, periodic checking, feeding, pest control etc. etc. Finally on April 17 we took delivery of two packages of bees each weighing about 2lbs. (about 6,000 bees) and a queen, for two hives.
> It is recommended that a newbie bee-keeper start with two hives, just so if one becomes dysfunctional or diseased, one can remain to overwinter
> and produce honey next year.
>
> Immediately installing the packages into the hive boxes, the worker bees go into action, drawing combs in the frames for the queen to lay eggs
> and start building the colony with worker bees. A good queen will lay eggs primarily to produce the female workers and perhaps a few DRONES ( males)
> here and there. The queen starts laying eggs within three days, the eggs hatch in another three, the cells are capped in eight days and adults emerge
> in sixteen days and the colony begins to build.
>
> Things were going quite smoothly, until, after sixteen days of installing the two packages in the hives, I discovered that in one of the hives
> there were only DRONES being produced, no workers, and thus a recipe for imminent demise of the colony. The drone cells are distinctively larger than the worker cells and easily identified. It did not seem right, but I thought it was just a little aberration. About a week later an e-mail came in from our bee-keeping organization announcing the next seminar where an expert was going to discuss various issues, INCLUDING problems such as drone-laying queens and
> egg-laying worker colonies.
>
> A warning flare went up in my mind! There are such things as a dysfunctional queen that produces only drones ? Or a colony taken over by the workers
> who lay their own eggs? Oh no!! Why me I thought.
>
> Ten days after I first saw the drone cells in my hive, I re-inspected the defective hive to confirm that there were no worker cells, only drones, just before going to attend the seminar. After a number of questions thrown at the speakers and a re-re-inspection of the problem hive the next day, I confirmed that the colony
> did not have a queen and that workers were laying eggs, which can only produce drones.
>
> Obviously, for some inexplicable reason, the workers went into a full-blown rebellion, killed the queen and took over egg-laying. I had a Maoist rebellion on my own hands!
>
> Now what? I thought of calling PC. But that was not a good idea. He would probably say-" No discussions without them first laying down their arms" or recommend calling in the air-force. MMS, perhaps? Naah, he will probably say that there is nothing that could not be solved within the democratic process! No use there either.
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> Well, how about Assamnet law-and-order advocates? Any help here :-)?
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> Stay tuned for Chapter II.
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> cm
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> From: Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>
> To: assamnet <assam at assamnet.org>
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:43:28 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Assam] A Rebellion of my Own
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> Chandan:
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> Very enlighteneing news from you.
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> No help from Kharkhwa capitalists here.
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> Waiting to read the next chapter.
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> Rajen
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>> From: cmahanta at gmail.com
>> To: assam at assamnet.org
>> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:21:13 -0500
>> Subject: [Assam] A Rebellion of my Own
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>> Not to make light of the struggles of the oppressed in India's
>> heartland and frontiers, but I have found myself
>> with sort of a Maoist rebellion right here in the land of
>> capitalism :-).
>>
>> After a number of years of mulling, I have decided to take the plunge
>> into bee-keeping this year. In February I attended a full day
>> seminar on bee-keeping, while traveling in Assam in March ordered bee
>> packages and queens via the internet and thereafter attended monthly
>> meetings, on-hands training sessions on assembling hives, comb frames,
>> installing bee packages and queens into hives, periodic checking,
>> feeding, pest control etc. etc. Finally on April 17 we took delivery
>> of two packages of bees each weighing about 2lbs. (about 6,000 bees)
>> and a queen, for two hives.
>> It is recommended that a newbie bee-keeper start with two hives, just
>> so if one becomes dysfunctional or diseased, one can remain to
>> overwinter
>> and produce honey next year.
>>
>> Immediately installing the packages into the hive boxes, the worker
>> bees go into action, drawing combs in the frames for the queen to lay
>> eggs
>> and start building the colony with worker bees. A good queen will lay
>> eggs primarily to produce the female workers and perhaps a few DRONES
>> ( males)
>> here and there. The queen starts laying eggs within three days, the
>> eggs hatch in another three, the cells are capped in eight days and
>> adults emerge
>> in sixteen days and the colony begins to build.
>>
>> Things were going quite smoothly, until, after sixteen days of
>> installing the two packages in the hives, I discovered that in one of
>> the hives
>> there were only DRONES being produced, no workers, and thus a recipe
>> for imminent demise of the colony. The drone cells are distinctively
>> larger than the worker cells and easily identified. It did not seem
>> right, but I thought it was just a little aberration. About a week
>> later an e-mail came in from our bee-keeping organization announcing
>> the next seminar where an expert was going to discuss various issues,
>> INCLUDING problems such as drone-laying queens and
>> egg-laying worker colonies.
>>
>> A warning flare went up in my mind! There are such things as a
>> dysfunctional queen that produces only drones ? Or a colony taken over
>> by the workers
>> who lay their own eggs? Oh no!! Why me I thought.
>>
>> Ten days after I first saw the drone cells in my hive, I re-inspected
>> the defective hive to confirm that there were no worker cells, only
>> drones, just before going to attend the seminar. After a number of
>> questions thrown at the speakers and a re-re-inspection of the problem
>> hive the next day, I confirmed that the colony
>> did not have a queen and that workers were laying eggs, which can only
>> produce drones.
>>
>> Obviously, for some inexplicable reason, the workers went into a full-
>> blown rebellion, killed the queen and took over egg-laying. I had a
>> Maoist rebellion on my own hands!
>>
>> Now what? I thought of calling PC. But that was not a good idea. He
>> would probably say-" No discussions without them first laying down
>> their arms" or recommend calling in the air-force. MMS, perhaps?
>> Naah, he will probably say that there is nothing that could not be
>> solved within the democratic process! No use there either.
>>
>> Well, how about Assamnet law-and-order advocates? Any help here :-)?
>>
>> Stay tuned for Chapter II.
>>
>> cm
>>
>>
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> From: UTTAM BORTHAKUR <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in>
> To: assam <assam at assamnet.org>
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:08:23 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Assam] From the Sentinel -Letters to the Editor 17/05/2010
>>>>>>> BTW, what is this DNA testing supposed to prove or disprove? This
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> sounds to me like a case of "olpo-bidya bhoyonkori".
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> ******* Our Manoj Das has a fairly good idea about its consequences. Manoj
> please!
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> In Louisiana, I was interrogated by the police, as I looked like a Hispanic
> to them. And they sniffed at the Pithaguri, I was carrying to a friend.
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> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <assam at assamnet.org>
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:42:28 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Assam] From the Sentinel -Letters to the Editor 17/05/2010
>>In Louisiana, I was interrogated by the police, as I looked like a Hispanic
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>> to them.
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> *** There you go! At Amsterdam, us brown-skinned ones get that extra degree of
> security checks as potential terrorists I am sure.
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>>And they sniffed at the Pithaguri, I was carrying to a friend.
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> *** That was NOT a prudent thing to do. Remember Anthrax :-)?
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> On May 19, 2010, at 10:38 AM, UTTAM BORTHAKUR wrote:
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>>>>>>>> BTW, what is this DNA testing supposed to prove or disprove? This
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>> sounds to me like a case of "olpo-bidya bhoyonkori".
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>> ******* Our Manoj Das has a fairly good idea about its consequences. Manoj
>> please!
>>
>> In Louisiana, I was interrogated by the police, as I looked like a Hispanic
>> to them. And they sniffed at the Pithaguri, I was carrying to a friend.
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> To: assam <assam at assamnet.org>
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:14:16 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Assam] A Rebellion of my Own
> Chandan Da,
>
> I was overwhelmed. Practice is a bit better than theory, that is perhaps
> what Mao said:-)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>
> To: assamnet <assam at assamnet.org>, Texas Assameses <texamese at yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:53:02 -0500
> Subject: [Assam] Rongali Bihu Celebrations in Kuwait [1 Attachment]
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> “Manas Robin Xondhiya” organized as part of Rongali Bihu Celebrations in Kuwait
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> The Asom Association Kuwait celebrated Rongali Bihu over two days on 16th April and 14th May 2010.
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> The main Rongali Bihu function was celebrated as “Manas Robin Xondhiya” on 14th May 2010. The venue for the celebrations was the gorgeous Royal Ballroom of Asia Asia Restaurant in Kuwait City. The programme started at 7:15 PM with the felicitation of the Guests, Hon’ble Ambassador of India to Kuwait, His Excellency, Sri Ajai Malhotra, his wife Smt Ira Malhotra and the guest artists Sri Manas Robin and Sri Hemanta Borah followed by lighting of the ceremonial lamp by them. President of the Asom Association Kuwait, Mr. Bikash Jyoti Gogoi in his inaugural speech, welcomed the gathering and outlined the importance of this celebration. His Excellency Sri Ajai Malhotra in his speech lauded the efforts of the Association and remarked that India’s cultural diversity was the strength which sets it apart from any other country in this world. He also expressed his pleasure in seeing the display of handicrafts and artifacts from Asom and other north eastern states arranged as an exhibition by the duo of Mr. Debashis Kakoty and Ms. Lata Pandey Kakoty.
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> The annual Souvenir of the Association “Jetuka” edited and published by Mr. Dwaipayan Bora and Dr. Rifat Mannan was released by the Hon’ble Ambassador. He commended the effort and appreciated the available literary talent. He also distributed the prizes of the Drawing and Essay competitions to all winning children. Master Arnab Jyoti Gogoi and Miss Ananya Kashyap were the overall winners in the respective competitions.
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> The in-house cultural programme co-ordinated by Mr. Abhijit Sharma comprised of the chorus “Srimoyee Asomir” and “Biswar sonde sonde” sung by Anjali Rajkhowa, Ranita Dutta, Sharmistha Bhattacharya, Aruna Dutta, Rupalima Bardalaye, Dr. Ranjita Sarma, Parimita Bora, Debahuti Das, Nilakshi Bora, Mouchumi Sharma, Pranami Bhattacharya, Masum Rajkhowa, Pallabi Saikia, Geeta Rajkhowa, Mitali Goswami, Aghore Bhattacharya, Alok Das, Bijan Goswami and Anupam Rajkhowa which set the tone for the rest of the evening. Mr. Shyamal Barooah and Mr. Abhijit Sharma accompanied the singers on keyboard and guitar respectively to keep the audience spellbound. A scintillating performance of Husori was performed by the group comprising of Aghore Bhattacharya, Alok Das, Jayanta Saikia, Bijan Goswami, Anupam Rajkhowa, Rajib Rajkhowa, Basab Sarma, Nilakshi Bora, Masum Rajkhowa, Pranami Bhattacharya, Mouchumi Sharma and Parimita Bora under the guidance of Mr. Hirendranath Rajkhowa.
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> The children amply demonstrated their talents by performing classical (Tanaya), Assamese modern dance (Anchita, Shubhangi, Shreya, Gargi, Diksha, Khushi, Tanya, Tasha), Jhumur dance (Swareena, Sneha, Sanghamitra, Oshin, Ananya, Niki) and walking the ramp (Shubhankar, Shruti, Riha, Adi, Obhi, Arya, Ruhi, Adit). They put up their best performance and it was a treat to watch them perform.
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> A memento was presented to both Manas and Hemanta by Mamoni Gogoi, Pranita Devichoudhury and Anjali Rajkhowa, on behalf of the Association, in appreciation of their participation in the Rongali Bihu celebrations and as a token of our love and affection.
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> After the in-house cultural programme, the stage was declared open for “Manas Robin Xondhiya” when the versatile singer, composer and music director Sri Manas Robin took center stage and drew the attention of all in the crowd. He was assisted by Sri Hemanta Borah from Mumbai. Sri Manas Robin had accepted the invitation of the Asom Association, Kuwait to travel to this gulf country to be a part of its Bihu celebrations. The Association was honoured to have him as a guest artiste for the first time and offered its hospitality to him. In his maiden appearance he showed his versatility in full measure as he sang from a whole range of Assamese songs, from the past and the present. He bonded well with the crowd as his playful Bihu numbers captivated the crowd. As he rolled out the latest Assamese hits everyone including adults and children trooped into the stage as they sang and danced to the tune of his music. About 110 persons attended this gala evening. As we remained engrossed in the programme, we failed to notice that it was time for dinner. The sumptuous dinner arranged by Mr. Ramen Deka and Mrs. Anjana Deka complete with a variety of dishes prepared to Assamese taste was the grand finale to the Celebrations.
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> The event on 16th April 2010 was held at the Al-Fintas Park where the Assamese families gathered for outdoor fun and games activities. The members were welcomed with a plateful of different varieties of pithas, larus and other snacks prepared by the ladies. The bright sunny afternoon in this expansive park was a perfect setting for the members to relax and network, while the children played to their heart's content.
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> From: Ram Dhar <ramdhar at hotmail.com>
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> Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 22:04:25 -0400
> Subject: [Assam] Mahindra's small truck coming to USA end of this year
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> small truck tR20 ,tr40 will be in Q4'10
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