[Assam] Armed Revolution is an Outdated Concept

Sat May 22 08:56:27 PDT 2010

Good to hear from you A. Glad you are enjoying your vacation, wherever  
it is.

I am not a dyed-in-the-green, back-to-nature type myself. I always  
thought that giving
bees a boost helps nature and our food source. Besides, good honey  
tastes delicious and beats
sugar or corn syrup, even though, in its fundamentals, it just another  
form of sugar.  Since we
have sooo much honey source around us, I thought it would make good  
sense to take it up, even
though it is yet another burden to deal with. But I am one of those   
people who never learnt where
or when to stop :-).

 >but I think the guy who said he knew what to do, messed up

*** More than likely, that was what happened. Bees are like a finely  
crafted and superbly tuned
piece of machinery. If you don't understand its behavior, you will  
surely mess it up at every step.
Take it from a "bhukto-bhwgi" who is stumbling all over the way, from  
the get-go.

 >Shouldn't the question be - is violence right or wrong,

*** That would have been a far more noble question to raise and deal  
with the issue  from that
angle, even though that too has its pit-falls. It also would not have  
reflected so badly on the writer (or his fans )
to dwell on the 'obsolescence'  :-). But I understand, this damned  
English language is a plague that never
leaves the adha-khunda desi journalists and commentators.

I said  "--even though that too has its pit-falls.".  Can you think of  
some of those, should that have been
the lead for Kamath to work with? If you do will you share that ? If  
not, do ask, I will be pleased to help :-).

Oh, this Kamath fan with you, ask him to go easy on that sun or the  
resort libations or both :-).

c-da

On May 22, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:

>
> It's good to hear your opiniion again, C'da, of course with the samy  
> tone on this topic :). Haven't seen you much lately.
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> A friend of mine and her husband here at Magnolia area, are also  
> keeping honey bees at their home now. They are also into everything  
> organic, starting with raising backyard chickens, growing their own  
> vegetables etc. I wish we had that much energy.
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> We had bees in our home in Guwahati when we were little, the bees  
> came in through a window to 'reside' into a wooden box which was  
> used to store food items. Later on, the hive was transferred into a  
> professional box, but I think the guy who said he knew what to do,  
> messed up or took the queen for himself - that's what some people  
> told us later on. :)
>
>
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>> **** Meaning of outdated is something obsolete, not currently in
>> vogue, passe', out-of-fashion .
>> The comment therefore would indicated that it was, in some past
>> times fashionable, in-vogue
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> Shouldn't the question be - is violence right or wrong, regardless  
> of its stylish status or whether it's in vogue or not?
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> BTW, this is just my opinion, an immediate question that came to my  
> mind. I am not supporting anybody even though I am on the same  
> vacation spots with someone you know :), we are enjoying free Wi-Fi  
> eveywhere now, it was not so until the other day.
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> Have a great rest of the weekend!
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>> From: cmahanta at gmail.com
>> To: assam at assamnet.org
>> Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 09:19:26 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Assam] Armed Revolution is an Outdated Concept
>>
>> O' Ram:
>>
>> You must be enjoying too much of the vacation paradise libations, or
>> at least enjoying the sun
>> a bit more than you should be. Why else would you be a fan of this
>> piece of unmitigated trash?
>>
>> That brings me to YOUR pithy proclamations:
>>
>>>> I must agree that "Armed Revolution is an Outdated Concept".
>>
>> **** Meaning of outdated is something obsolete, not currently in
>> vogue, passe', out-of-fashion .
>> The comment therefore would indicated that it was, in some past
>> times fashionable, in-vogue
>> etc.
>>
>> **** I have serious doubts about the reasoning abilities of people
>> who think or believe
>> that other people take to arms against a vastly superior force do so
>> because it is ROMANTIC, or
>> fashionable, or some such mindless reason. Do YOU? Is it this damned
>> English language again :-)?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I would like to add, that it is STILL valid for folks living in an
>> early
>>>> 18th/19th Century mindset.
>>
>>
>> **** Why do you think so? Are you suggesting that better options
>> exist today that did not
>> then and thus it is an unnecessary tactic? If you do believe that
>> India DOES provide those
>> means of problem solving, why do you think there are sooo many armed
>> conflicts there?
>>
>> Is it because there are way too many people who the Indian state has
>> been unable to educate,
>> leaving them behind in the stone age, leading them to nurture death-
>> wishes as romantic
>> ideals and indulging in armed rebellions to be fashionable like
>> Bollywood fans?
>>
>> If it is, does it not demolish the premise of the argument to begin
>> with?
>>
>>
>>> Many of these "revolutionaries" cite examples of China, old USSR, or
>>> may be
>>> some other country, and yet little do they realize, that as far as
>>> State-revolutionaries conflicts are concerned, India is the only
>>> country
>>> where these armed hoods can get away - and I mean get away with blue
>>> murder,
>>> looting, kidnapping and whatever else.
>>
>>
>> **** And what about those in power who have the force of arms,
>> political power
>> privileges of cast and creed with which THEY can get away with
>> murder, literally
>> while slowly sucking the the life out of these unfashionable,
>> uneducated, romantic
>> revolutionaries, under the protection and approval of the machinery
>> of state?
>>
>> Where is the liberal democratic state with the rule of law that you
>> allude to, to prevent
>> their misdeeds, the corruption, the tyranny, the corporate looting
>> and the like?
>>
>>
>>> Pick any other country, the USA, China, Russia, even Cuba - these
>>> armed
>>> revolutions would have been quelled down with drastic, immediate
>>> force, and
>>> NO one would be complaining.
>>
>>
>> **** Oh these complainers, pseudo intellectual bleeding hearts and
>> the like!
>> You ought to have corrected Kamath--he just wants to QUESTION
>> Arundhati. They should
>> lock them up and throw away the keys at the very least. I am sure
>> there are more
>> permanent ways to deal with them. Maybe you all should get ex-AGP
>> PCMahanta
>> to consult on that, he might have shared his tactics.
>>
>>
>>> India, is just too damn soft, and democracy has been hijacked by  
>>> these
>>> "intellectuals" leading these armed hoods to suit their own  
>>> purposes.
>>
>> *** Hmmm! So the 'armed hoods' are the lemmings, led by them
>> 'intellectual thugs'?
>>
>>
>> Think for a second Ram, just because you are capable of throwing
>> around a few phrases
>> and cliches, but are unable to see or unwilling to acknowledge the
>> fallacies in your arguments,
>> it only presents yourself in a poor light!
>>
>> c-da
>>
>>
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>>
>> On May 22, 2010, at 12:42 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>
>>> It is too early in the AM in this part of the world, or I am just
>>> too damn
>>> dumb, but I must agree that "Armed Revolution is an Outdated
>>> Concept".
>>>
>>> I would like to add, that it is STILL valid for folks living in an
>>> early
>>> 18th/19th Century mindset. While there are a million things wrong  
>>> with
>>> India, these gun-totting yahoos running amok don't add one iota of
>>> well-being to any one - the country, their supporters, their state.
>>> The only
>>> exception is for their own self-interest.
>>>
>>> Many of these "revolutionaries" cite examples of China, old USSR, or
>>> may be
>>> some other country, and yet little do they realize, that as far as
>>> State-revolutionaries conflicts are concerned, India is the only
>>> country
>>> where these armed hoods can get away - and I mean get away with blue
>>> murder,
>>> looting, kidnapping and whatever else.
>>>
>>> Pick any other country, the USA, China, Russia, even Cuba - these
>>> armed
>>> revolutions would have been quelled down with drastic, immediate
>>> force, and
>>> NO one would be complaining.
>>>
>>> India, is just too damn soft, and democracy has been hijacked by  
>>> these
>>> "intellectuals" leading these armed hoods to suit their own  
>>> purposes.
>>>
>>> More later. Got to run for now.
>>>
>>> --Ram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 5:32 AM, UTTAM BORTHAKUR <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Armed revolts are stated to be outdated; the statement is not new.
>>>> But, what we find is it continues to this modern day.
>>>> Kamath trying to shoo a nagging bee away with his wishy-washy.
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