[Assam] Armed Revolution is an Outdated Concept
Ram Sarangapani
assamrs at gmail.com
Sun May 23 02:05:43 PDT 2010
Hola C'da from the land of Sangria,
>You must be enjoying too much of the vacation paradise libations, or at
least enjoying the >sun a bit more than you should be
hehehehhe - is all I can say for the moment :-)
What is meant as "outdated" is simply that these ' *armed* *revolutions*'
are archaic methods to fight for a cause. In all practicality, in today's
world, none of these armed struggles can achieve their goals - be it
Thailand, Russia in Assam or Naxals. The most these groups can do is to
cause unrest in localized areas, and getting many innocent people killed.
That seriously leads me to believe that these struggles may have been based
on some social neglect, but have been lead by "intellectuals" who have their
own agenda of sorts.
For example, what is the Communist Party -Marxist-Lennist doing in India at
this day and age? It is certainly some grand political agenda of some
diehard Commies leading some people to slaughter ..... and mind you ALL this
taking full advantage of a democratic India basic ideals.
Are these Commies promising a "better India" than the present India? Why
didn't they just fight for causes without the Maoist label? Maybe you know
the answer?
Would they be able to do the same in China or Russia, or Cuba, or
Venezueala? Would they tolerate these upstarts for a moment. Many on this
net cry foul of "State Repression".
Huh! - can they even yelp about state reprisals in China or Russia or Cuba?
That is why these commies and anti govt. types take full advantage of a
country like India which does not seem to have the will or the ability to
control the mushrooming of these armed hoods running around.
All these groups whether they are Maoists or ulfa or whatever are not
revolutionists, struggles or something lofty. They are simply groups of
people led by "deep thinking leaders" whose main agenda is either political,
or power, or simply making a great living. Many of these "intellectuals"
just hate India, want to destablize it, and all the while making promises of
a "sonor Asom" or a "chicken on every plate".
Even when we were students, there would be a few students carrying some
little red book (some manifesto) in a bag hung from their shoulder, sporting
a beard, wear glasses, and trying to look really intelligent. They were
wrong and passe then, as they are now.
Many of us remember, in Calcutta (during the Naxals trouble) - small groups
of young Naxals would approach some unfortunate traffic cop, and kill him,
or would board a bus or tram and kill a few passengers who looked like a
bourgeois. And that was the affect of their big "struggle". The
downtrowdden in West Bengal are still the have nots (after 30-40 years of
Commuinist Govt).
In summation, these so called struggles are only benefitting the leaders and
really nothing else. The ULFA has been doing this for 30 + years with only a
lot of dead people along the way, the Maoists & Naxals for much longer, and
their leaders too have gotten fat on the struggles of their hapless
cadres. For once, lets call a spade a spade.
--Ram
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com> wrote:
> O' Ram:
>
> You must be enjoying too much of the vacation paradise libations, or at
> least enjoying the sun
> a bit more than you should be. Why else would you be a fan of this piece
> of unmitigated trash?
>
> That brings me to YOUR pithy proclamations:
>
>
>
>> >I must agree that "Armed Revolution is an Outdated Concept".
>>
>
> **** Meaning of outdated is something obsolete, not currently in
> vogue, passe', out-of-fashion .
> The comment therefore would indicated that it was, in some past
> times fashionable, in-vogue
> etc.
>
> **** I have serious doubts about the reasoning abilities of people
> who think or believe
> that other people take to arms against a vastly superior force do so
> because it is ROMANTIC, or
> fashionable, or some such mindless reason. Do YOU? Is it this
> damned English language again :-)?
>
>
>
>
>
> >I would like to add, that it is STILL valid for folks living in an early
>
>> >18th/19th Century mindset.
>>
>
>
> **** Why do you think so? Are you suggesting that better options
> exist today that did not
> then and thus it is an unnecessary tactic? If you do believe that
> India DOES provide those
> means of problem solving, why do you think there are sooo many armed
> conflicts there?
>
> Is it because there are way too many people who the Indian state has
> been unable to educate,
> leaving them behind in the stone age, leading them to nurture
> death-wishes as romantic
> ideals and indulging in armed rebellions to be fashionable like
> Bollywood fans?
>
> If it is, does it not demolish the premise of the argument to begin
> with?
>
>
>
> Many of these "revolutionaries" cite examples of China, old USSR, or may be
>> some other country, and yet little do they realize, that as far as
>> State-revolutionaries conflicts are concerned, India is the only country
>> where these armed hoods can get away - and I mean get away with blue
>> murder,
>> looting, kidnapping and whatever else.
>>
>
>
> **** And what about those in power who have the force of arms,
> political power
> privileges of cast and creed with which THEY can get away with
> murder, literally
> while slowly sucking the the life out of these unfashionable,
> uneducated, romantic
> revolutionaries, under the protection and approval of the machinery
> of state?
>
> Where is the liberal democratic state with the rule of law that you
> allude to, to prevent
> their misdeeds, the corruption, the tyranny, the corporate looting
> and the like?
>
>
>
> Pick any other country, the USA, China, Russia, even Cuba - these armed
>> revolutions would have been quelled down with drastic, immediate force,
>> and
>> NO one would be complaining.
>>
>
>
> **** Oh these complainers, pseudo intellectual bleeding hearts and
> the like!
> You ought to have corrected Kamath--he just wants to QUESTION
> Arundhati. They should
> lock them up and throw away the keys at the very least. I am sure
> there are more
> permanent ways to deal with them. Maybe you all should get ex-AGP
> PCMahanta
> to consult on that, he might have shared his tactics.
>
>
>
> India, is just too damn soft, and democracy has been hijacked by these
>> "intellectuals" leading these armed hoods to suit their own purposes.
>>
>
> *** Hmmm! So the 'armed hoods' are the lemmings, led by them
> 'intellectual thugs'?
>
>
> Think for a second Ram, just because you are capable of throwing around a
> few phrases
> and cliches, but are unable to see or unwilling to acknowledge the
> fallacies in your arguments,
> it only presents yourself in a poor light!
>
> c-da
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2010, at 12:42 AM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>
> It is too early in the AM in this part of the world, or I am just too damn
>> dumb, but I must agree that "Armed Revolution is an Outdated Concept".
>>
>> I would like to add, that it is STILL valid for folks living in an early
>> 18th/19th Century mindset. While there are a million things wrong with
>> India, these gun-totting yahoos running amok don't add one iota of
>> well-being to any one - the country, their supporters, their state. The
>> only
>> exception is for their own self-interest.
>>
>> Many of these "revolutionaries" cite examples of China, old USSR, or may
>> be
>> some other country, and yet little do they realize, that as far as
>> State-revolutionaries conflicts are concerned, India is the only country
>> where these armed hoods can get away - and I mean get away with blue
>> murder,
>> looting, kidnapping and whatever else.
>>
>> Pick any other country, the USA, China, Russia, even Cuba - these armed
>> revolutions would have been quelled down with drastic, immediate force,
>> and
>> NO one would be complaining.
>>
>> India, is just too damn soft, and democracy has been hijacked by these
>> "intellectuals" leading these armed hoods to suit their own purposes.
>>
>> More later. Got to run for now.
>>
>> --Ram
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 5:32 AM, UTTAM BORTHAKUR <
>> uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Armed revolts are stated to be outdated; the statement is not new.
>>> But, what we find is it continues to this modern day.
>>> Kamath trying to shoo a nagging bee away with his wishy-washy.
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