[Air-L] Antw: Re: Inclusion of short links in academic publications?

Tue Jul 26 06:47:31 PDT 2011

Please, do not use shortened links in academic publications: this removes so
much valuable information.

To help your reader, provide an online copy of your bibliography (and track
clicks from there if you must) -- both of the Web and non-Web materials.

AOIR should speak out loudly *against* so-called "citation formats" such as
MLA's which do not require a URL for native web formats.

When dealing with shortened URLs that have broken -- or if you want to
contribute to the archiving effort, check the Archive Team's project on
shortened URLs:
http://urlte.am

-Jodi

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Johann Hoechtl <
Johann.Hoechtl at donau-uni.ac.at> wrote:

> Ironically, the link doesn't work for me - Time out.
>
> Albeit the idea is appealing! I still think it's a good idea to work with
> short links for ease of readability and facilitate manual entry of web
> addresses in a browser. A corresponding short - to - longlist in the
> appendix of the paper should be enough for a wayback machine.
>
> A short-url service specifically for acedemic research would also be a
> great starter for collaborative url collection, but I am digressing ...
>
> Johann
>
> >>> Monica Barratt <tronica at gmail.com> schrieb am 26.07.2011 um 14:09 in
> Nachricht
> <CAF9Ekp1j_i6853QXnixKN3A6upFO1z63+caW0Sc24aZr0Q75Yg at mail.gmail.com>:
> > Does anyone have an opinion on using webcitation as an archiving service?
> > http://www.webcitation.org/faq
> >
> > They seem to be made for this kind of work. I was considering using
> > them in my thesis reference list and was thinking about including the
> > short URL only, but can see now that maybe that's not the best idea.
> > However, webcitation claim they won't 'disappear' down the track. I
> > guess that's been said before!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Monica
> >
> >
> >
> > On 26 July 2011 13:33, Denise N. Rall <denrall at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Dear Johan  -
> >>
> >> At my uni, they move the papers into a digital repository called bpress.
> > There are digital repositories on the market as well.
> >>
> >> Each paper included contains the last draft the researcher submitted for
> > publication which avoids copyright tangles (apparently). Other works
> included
> > on the page are cleared for copyright by our library staff.
> >>
> >> bpress generates its own statistics on how many times each reference
> (paper
> > or thesis, etc.) has been accessed. So one always knows how many times
> the
> > paper has been accessed. So do the administrators.
> >>
> >> Cheers, Denise
> >>
> >> Dr Denise N. Rall, Research Assistant, School of Health & Human Sciences
> >> Exhibitor, Art in Chemistry, NeXT Gallery, Magellan St., Lismore,
> >> Opening Thursday 18 August 18 5-7 PM, On display 8-26 August, 2011
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> >> http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/esm/staff/pages/drall/
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Sat, 23/7/11, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011 at reagle.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011 at reagle.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Antw: Re: Inclusion of short links in academic
> > publications?
> >>> To: "Johann Hoechtl" <Johann.Hoechtl at donau-uni.ac.at>
> >>> Cc: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> >>> Received: Saturday, 23 July, 2011, 1:03 AM
> >>> On Friday, July 22, 2011, Johann
> >>> Hoechtl wrote:
> >>> > If you are the one who created the shortlinks, it's
> >>> likely that you have the ability to track how many times it
> >>> was clicked (if you register at the shortening service)
> >>>
> >>> OK, understood.
> >>>
> >>> > * If you happen to publish a paper in a (closed)
> >>> journal you are able to interpolate a figure how often your
> >>> submission was read (if there is a statistical figure how
> >>> many paper readers actually follow references, footnotes or
> >>> plain internet links). Did the reviewers took a deep look
> >>> into your references? From that you can derive a, admittedly
> >>> problematic, cost-value ratio of the journal.
> >>>
> >>> Ah, I was thinking the primary thing I'd want to know was
> >>> how many people read my paper but that's not something I'd
> >>> have access to. But I can see your interpolation point
> >>> though I'd be cognizant that (again) there are many services
> >>> out there.
> >>>
> >>> As to other reasons (usefulness of my sources, and
> >>> countries and such), those haven't been too compelling to
> >>> me, and I'll note that this might steal page rank link juice
> >>> -- since references to things will now have multiples URLs.
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