[Assam] ANT & GRASS HOPPER

Chan Mahanta cmahanta at charter.net
Tue Jul 3 06:56:26 PDT 2007


>  >The main idea of the story, as anybody with common sense will 
>understand, is that people who are
>incapable of making it to higher ups, cribs and point fingers at 
>those who have made it to higher ups .....and I do agree to this.



*** Okkkay!  Let us begin here. Don't worry. I will give you your 
answer, IF, by some chance, it does not become apparent to you, 
fairly soon, from the exercises you will do, interactively. The 
length of the exercises , will be dependent  on your ABILITY or 
WILLINGNESS to dig deeper, and in the process connect the dots that 
will emerge from the excavation.


For reference, we will call the above 'the main idea according to 
Krishendu' or MIAK for short.

BTW, if bystanders have other understandings of the piece's main 
idea/s, very different or even little but nuanced different, feel 
free to chime in. We will use them for reference .


( Here observers , who might not be familiar with the original 
Aesop's fable of the Ant and the Grasshopper -- ATGH  for short---, 
might note that  it was about working hard and SAVING for a RAINY 
DAY).


Now  then, from MIAK above, those with any commonsense ought to  know 
that the world is neatly divided into two camps: One of hardworking 
achievers, the ANTS and the other being of the lazy, parasitic , 
cribbing ( complaining) non-achievers.


Would that be a reasonable interpretation  here?  Feel free to 
correct me if I am reading you incorrectly.
However, I like to think I am on target. And therefore we will 
proceed to the next exercise:

	***  Therefore, from the litany of individuals and 
institutions named in this desi-version of
	the ATGH ( DATGH for short) , you should be able to point out 
who falls into which group.

	Let us identify these two groups as the hardworking ants 
(HWA) and the lazy,cribbing lot
	LCL)

	So, please assign the appropriate labels below.  To make it 
easy I will give the
	following example:

	BBC,CNN, NDTV --- ( HWA ? or LCL? )
	Arundhati Roy ---- ?
	Medha Patkar ---- ?
	Amnesty International --- ?
	Kofi Annan ---- ?
	Opposition MPs ----?
	Governing party MPs ----?
	West Begal Govt. ----?
	Kerala Govt. ----?
	Lallu Prasad Yadav ---?
	POTAGA ---?
	Arjun Singh ---?

	*** Also since you brought in the following Assamnetter 
personalities, what group
	would they belong to:

	Chandan Mahanta ----- ?
	Jugal Kalita -----?
	Krishendu Chakravarty-----?


Reasonable people might guess that there may not be many belonging to 
the HWA group mentioned in the DATGH.

And since you AGREE with the main idea embedded in this DATGH,  but 
since the illustrious author of the piece did not give us any 
example, other than one who left to Silicon valley to set up that 
billlion dollar company,  please provide us a few  examples of  who 
might fit the HWA group well.

I hope you will agree, that it is VERY IMPORTANT to have those examples. So :

	1:   -----  ?
	2:   -----  ?
	3:   -----  ?
	4:   -----  ?
	5:   -----  ?

**** Assuming you don't abandon ship or run for the tall-grass at 
this point, we should be able to zero in on your answers with just 
one or  two more exercises.



I am already excited!














At 4:18 PM -0700 7/2/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:
>C'da
>
>I would not like to get into yet another lengthy
>discussion. I will try to answer your questions but do
>expect you will answer some of my questions too ---
>
>The main idea of the story, as anybody with common
>sense will understand, is that people who are
>incapable of making it to higher ups, cribs and point
>fingers at those who have made it to higher ups .....
>and I do agree to this.
>
>However,  the reason of posting my questions for you
>is NOT limited to this story.
>
>You have frequently tried to point out that Indian
>education system is dysfunctional. In many of your
>postings you have portraied that all who goes to
>IIT/IIM or get H1 or get a decent job, have an
>affluent parent who earned money through illegel (or
>unethical) means.
>
>I know that many of the netters including you, Jugalda
>who are very established in their own field have a
>background which is more aligned to BK's third son.
>Though my background is not that bad, it is pretty
>close.
>
>I would be interested to know HOW you made it to IIT
>and later to USA? 
>How come the dysfunctional Indian education not stop
>you from achiving this?
>Why do you think Indian Education system is
>dysfunctional?
>In US,  majority of students making it to top rank
>Schools are from Private School. Does the US education
>system also flawed so as not to allow BK's third son
>to make it to top ?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>
>>  OK, here we go.
>>
>>  There will be no  need to do resort to any twisting,
>>  spinning,
>>  proffering of feeble or disingenuous alibis  or
>>  other such evasive or
>>  diversionary tactics.
>>
>>  We will do it real slow. I will ask the questions to
>>  help you find
>>  the answer yourself.
>>
>>  No interruption from bystanders please. Hold your
>>  applause until K
>>  gets the answer he is seeking. I will be pleased to
>>  point it out for
>>  those who might have difficulty recognizing it when
>>  arrived at.
>>
>>
>>
>>	*** What is the main idea/s, the objective/s, of
>>  that  piece
>>  ANT & GRASS HOPPER, as you
>>	understand it/them?
>>
>>	*** Do you agree with them ?  If not why?
>>
>>
>>  Let us begin with the answer to these . Then we will
>>  move on to the
>>  next step/s, until we arrive at the sought  after
>>  answer/s, OK?
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>>  At 11:38 AM -0700 7/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
>>  wrote:
>>  >Please ..... we are eager for another of your
>>  twist!
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>>  >
>>  >>  Unfortunately you are NOT using your head at all
>>  K.
>>  >>  Think a little
>>  >>  harder. But if you still don't get it, let me
>>  know.
>>  >>  I will explain.
>>  >>  It may not look too good on you, but at least
>>  you
>>  >>  will learn.
>>  >>
>>  >>
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>>  >>  At 9:43 AM -0700 7/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
>>  >>  wrote:
>>  >>  >It proves the old saying .... "Churey Churor
>>  Theng
>>  >>  >dekha pai"  (A thief sees everybody as a
>>  thief).
>>  >>  >Just because you went up the ladder using
>>  unfair
>>  >>  >means, you now think that everybody uses unfair
>>  >>  means
>>  >>  >to go up the ladder.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >C'da,  May I request you to show a little more
>>  >>  respect
>>  >>  >to others before making such blanket statements
>>  >>  that
>>  >>  >all who have gone up the ladder have used
>>  unfair
>>  >>  >means.
>>  >>  >Just remove your India Bashing glasses and you
>>  can
>>  >>  see
>>  >>  >many "ants"  like us.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  Let us assume that I went to an elite
>>  school.
>>  >>  That
>>  >>  >>  my fees were paid
>>  >>  >>  for by bribes taken by my guardians in high
>>  >>  govt.
>>  >>  >>  positions. That I
>>  >>  >>  was driven to school by policemen in uniform
>>  and
>>  >>  >>  back. And I got
>>  >>  >>  private tuition for IIT entrance exams from
>>  >>  class VI
>>  >>  >>  onwards.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  What would that prove?
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
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>>  >>  >>  At 1:50 PM -0700 6/30/07, Krishnendu
>>  Chakraborty
>>  >>  >>  wrote:
>>  >>  >>  >C'da
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >Wonder How much fees you paid for enjoying
>>  your
>>  >>  >>  life
>>  >>  >>  >in St Louis :)
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >>>>>who attend schools with Christian
>>  saints'
>>  >>  names
>>  >>  >>  >paying huge fees,  go to IITs and IIMs and
>>  >>  AIIMs,
>>  >>  >>  get
>>  >>  >>  >H1B visas and go to enjoy their hard-won
>>  >>  fortunes
>>  >>  >>  in
>>  >>  >>  >the west, or at the very least  enjoy the
>>  good
>>  >>  life
>>  >>  >>  at
>>  >>  >>  >Gurgaon .
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >    
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