[Assam] ANT & GRASS HOPPER

Krishnendu Chakraborty krish_gau at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 3 15:40:36 PDT 2007


C'da
 
Thanks for enlightening me.  Now I know that --
 
The world is black and white ---  losers and winners  
 
BBC,CNN, AR, GOI etc all should be branded into one of
these.... there cannot be any one who can be termed as
exploiters  etc.

There cannot be others in the world who are corrupt,
criminal etc ... certainly there are none in that
group in the US of A but in India .... are you sure ??

There cannot be people whose IQ is not like Einstein
.... again ... I thought from your  postings that
Indians are a bunch of Idiots and the ONLY Intelligent
Indian has migrated to St Louis.
 --------
I agree ....  you win ... irrespective of what you may
think, say ... you win. 
 
In spite of the fact that MANY Indians who DO NOT pay
huge fees,  do not go to St ****  Schools but makes it
to IIT, IIM, Gurgaon or St Louis,  you win.
 
In spite of the fact that Chandan Mahanta, a product
of Dysfunctional Indian Education system,  has set up
a successfull Architecture practice in US by virtue of
his Indian education (and probably GOI scholarship), 
you win.
 
In spite of the fact that there are thousands of
"products of Dysfunctional Indian Education system" 
in Senior Levels of Multinational companies ,  you
win.
 
In spite of the fact that most of the high society
people in US send their kids to Private Schools (St
*****  School) paying HUGE fees and still you boast of
"checks and balances" and "functional education", you
win
 
---
As usual, you have avoided answering my questions....
anyway netters are used to it ....


--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:

> >  >The main idea of the story, as anybody with
> common sense will 
> >understand, is that people who are
> >incapable of making it to higher ups, cribs and
> point fingers at 
> >those who have made it to higher ups .....and I do
> agree to this.
> 
> 
> 
> *** Okkkay!  Let us begin here. Don't worry. I will
> give you your 
> answer, IF, by some chance, it does not become
> apparent to you, 
> fairly soon, from the exercises you will do,
> interactively. The 
> length of the exercises , will be dependent  on your
> ABILITY or 
> WILLINGNESS to dig deeper, and in the process
> connect the dots that 
> will emerge from the excavation.
> 
> 
> For reference, we will call the above 'the main idea
> according to 
> Krishendu' or MIAK for short.
> 
> BTW, if bystanders have other understandings of the
> piece's main 
> idea/s, very different or even little but nuanced
> different, feel 
> free to chime in. We will use them for reference .
> 
> 
> ( Here observers , who might not be familiar with
> the original 
> Aesop's fable of the Ant and the Grasshopper -- ATGH
>  for short---, 
> might note that  it was about working hard and
> SAVING for a RAINY 
> DAY).
> 
> 
> Now  then, from MIAK above, those with any
> commonsense ought to  know 
> that the world is neatly divided into two camps: One
> of hardworking 
> achievers, the ANTS and the other being of the lazy,
> parasitic , 
> cribbing ( complaining) non-achievers.
> 
> 
> Would that be a reasonable interpretation  here? 
> Feel free to 
> correct me if I am reading you incorrectly.
> However, I like to think I am on target. And
> therefore we will 
> proceed to the next exercise:
> 
> 	***  Therefore, from the litany of individuals and 
> institutions named in this desi-version of
> 	the ATGH ( DATGH for short) , you should be able to
> point out 
> who falls into which group.
> 
> 	Let us identify these two groups as the hardworking
> ants 
> (HWA) and the lazy,cribbing lot
> 	LCL)
> 
> 	So, please assign the appropriate labels below.  To
> make it 
> easy I will give the
> 	following example:
> 
> 	BBC,CNN, NDTV --- ( HWA ? or LCL? )
> 	Arundhati Roy ---- ?
> 	Medha Patkar ---- ?
> 	Amnesty International --- ?
> 	Kofi Annan ---- ?
> 	Opposition MPs ----?
> 	Governing party MPs ----?
> 	West Begal Govt. ----?
> 	Kerala Govt. ----?
> 	Lallu Prasad Yadav ---?
> 	POTAGA ---?
> 	Arjun Singh ---?
> 
> 	*** Also since you brought in the following
> Assamnetter 
> personalities, what group
> 	would they belong to:
> 
> 	Chandan Mahanta ----- ?
> 	Jugal Kalita -----?
> 	Krishendu Chakravarty-----?
> 
> 
> Reasonable people might guess that there may not be
> many belonging to 
> the HWA group mentioned in the DATGH.
> 
> And since you AGREE with the main idea embedded in
> this DATGH,  but 
> since the illustrious author of the piece did not
> give us any 
> example, other than one who left to Silicon valley
> to set up that 
> billlion dollar company,  please provide us a few 
> examples of  who 
> might fit the HWA group well.
> 
> I hope you will agree, that it is VERY IMPORTANT to
> have those examples. So :
> 
> 	1:   -----  ?
> 	2:   -----  ?
> 	3:   -----  ?
> 	4:   -----  ?
> 	5:   -----  ?
> 
> **** Assuming you don't abandon ship or run for the
> tall-grass at 
> this point, we should be able to zero in on your
> answers with just 
> one or  two more exercises.
> 
> 
> 
> I am already excited!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 4:18 PM -0700 7/2/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
> wrote:
> >C'da
> >
> >I would not like to get into yet another lengthy
> >discussion. I will try to answer your questions but
> do
> >expect you will answer some of my questions too ---
> >
> >The main idea of the story, as anybody with common
> >sense will understand, is that people who are
> >incapable of making it to higher ups, cribs and
> point
> >fingers at those who have made it to higher ups
> .....
> >and I do agree to this.
> >
> >However,  the reason of posting my questions for
> you
> >is NOT limited to this story.
> >
> >You have frequently tried to point out that Indian
> >education system is dysfunctional. In many of your
> >postings you have portraied that all who goes to
> >IIT/IIM or get H1 or get a decent job, have an
> >affluent parent who earned money through illegel
> (or
> >unethical) means.
> >
> >I know that many of the netters including you,
> Jugalda
> >who are very established in their own field have a
> >background which is more aligned to BK's third son.
> >Though my background is not that bad, it is pretty
> >close.
> >
> >I would be interested to know HOW you made it to
> IIT
> >and later to USA? 
> >How come the dysfunctional Indian education not
> stop
> >you from achiving this?
> >Why do you think Indian Education system is
> >dysfunctional?
> >In US,  majority of students making it to top rank
> >Schools are from Private School. Does the US
> education
> >system also flawed so as not to allow BK's third
> son
> >to make it to top ?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
> >--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >>  OK, here we go.
> 
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