[Assam] ANT & GRASS HOPPER
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Tue Jul 3 20:07:54 PDT 2007
What happened? You did not want to get to the answers you were seeking?
I did not say anything about the world being black and white. But
when YOU , who agreed with the creator of DATGH , subscribed to that
black and white world concept, as you read it, of the world divided
into the two camps--of the Ants and the Grasshoppers, you are the
one who subscribed to it.
I had nothing to do with YOUR comprehension, or lack thereof, of what
was embedded in that piece of trash, that some of of you found to be
'very good', enlightening or whatever.
I realize, that YOU were caught up with your own flawed
understanding, and resulting arguments you proffered. But there is
more to it:
That piece of foible, a desecration of Aesop's fable, really DID
NOT try to divide the world up to two neat camps, of the HWAs and
LCLs. It was far worse. It attempted to portray that there were
those who worked hard, pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, on
their very own, like the self-made men/women they fancy themselves
to be; only to be thwarted by those like Medha Patkar , Arundhati
Roy, CNN, BBC, NDTV or who have you, who speak up and out for those
on whose backs these self-made men/women are attempting to build
their fortunes.
But in reality, those who identify withe gist of this article are the
COMPLAINERS, the 'cribbers' in your words. They are the PARASITES.
They are clueless ands can care less about all those, for whom their
land is the only thing that stands between a life of urban
deprivation and and a life of dignity, however meagre.
And who does the wretched author of that piece belongs to? To the
'cribbers'. They are abjectly ignorant of the glaring fact of their
pretensions to being 'achievers, of being self-made men/women, is
fiction, but something their desi-education never prepared them to
recognize or realize.
Thus, the question you asked me, is based on your inability to
comprehend ordinary English, compounded by your political
predilections. The 'cribbers' here are those to whom the author
of the clueless piece belongs. And WHO are these cribbers?
They are the privileged few of India, empowered by a government who
steals from the many to enrich and empower the select few, those
whose children , by overwhelming percentages get to attend those
'elite' institutions, only to leave and enjoy the good life on
foreign shores.
Am I ONE of them, like you insinuate? You decide.
And that was what I was saying that you took issue with.
I hope, NOW you understand.
At 3:40 PM -0700 7/3/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:
>C'da
>
>Thanks for enlightening me. Now I know that --
>
>The world is black and white --- losers and winners
>
>BBC,CNN, AR, GOI etc all should be branded into one of
>these.... there cannot be any one who can be termed as
>exploiters etc.
>
>There cannot be others in the world who are corrupt,
>criminal etc ... certainly there are none in that
>group in the US of A but in India .... are you sure ??
>
>There cannot be people whose IQ is not like Einstein
>.... again ... I thought from your postings that
>Indians are a bunch of Idiots and the ONLY Intelligent
>Indian has migrated to St Louis.
> --------
>I agree .... you win ... irrespective of what you may
>think, say ... you win.
>
>In spite of the fact that MANY Indians who DO NOT pay
>huge fees, do not go to St **** Schools but makes it
>to IIT, IIM, Gurgaon or St Louis, you win.
>
>In spite of the fact that Chandan Mahanta, a product
>of Dysfunctional Indian Education system, has set up
>a successfull Architecture practice in US by virtue of
>his Indian education (and probably GOI scholarship),
>you win.
>
>In spite of the fact that there are thousands of
>"products of Dysfunctional Indian Education system"
>in Senior Levels of Multinational companies , you
>win.
>
>In spite of the fact that most of the high society
>people in US send their kids to Private Schools (St
>***** School) paying HUGE fees and still you boast of
>"checks and balances" and "functional education", you
>win
>
>---
>As usual, you have avoided answering my questions....
>anyway netters are used to it ....
>
>
>--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> > >The main idea of the story, as anybody with
>> common sense will
>> >understand, is that people who are
>> >incapable of making it to higher ups, cribs and
>> point fingers at
>> >those who have made it to higher ups .....and I do
>> agree to this.
>>
>>
>>
>> *** Okkkay! Let us begin here. Don't worry. I will
>> give you your
>> answer, IF, by some chance, it does not become
>> apparent to you,
>> fairly soon, from the exercises you will do,
>> interactively. The
>> length of the exercises , will be dependent on your
>> ABILITY or
>> WILLINGNESS to dig deeper, and in the process
>> connect the dots that
>> will emerge from the excavation.
>>
>>
>> For reference, we will call the above 'the main idea
>> according to
>> Krishendu' or MIAK for short.
>>
>> BTW, if bystanders have other understandings of the
>> piece's main
>> idea/s, very different or even little but nuanced
>> different, feel
>> free to chime in. We will use them for reference .
>>
>>
>> ( Here observers , who might not be familiar with
>> the original
>> Aesop's fable of the Ant and the Grasshopper -- ATGH
>> for short---,
>> might note that it was about working hard and
>> SAVING for a RAINY
>> DAY).
>>
>>
>> Now then, from MIAK above, those with any
>> commonsense ought to know
>> that the world is neatly divided into two camps: One
>> of hardworking
>> achievers, the ANTS and the other being of the lazy,
>> parasitic ,
>> cribbing ( complaining) non-achievers.
>>
>>
>> Would that be a reasonable interpretation here?
>> Feel free to
>> correct me if I am reading you incorrectly.
>> However, I like to think I am on target. And
>> therefore we will
>> proceed to the next exercise:
>>
>> *** Therefore, from the litany of individuals and
>> institutions named in this desi-version of
>> the ATGH ( DATGH for short) , you should be able to
>> point out
>> who falls into which group.
>>
>> Let us identify these two groups as the hardworking
>> ants
>> (HWA) and the lazy,cribbing lot
>> LCL)
>>
>> So, please assign the appropriate labels below. To
>> make it
>> easy I will give the
>> following example:
>>
>> BBC,CNN, NDTV --- ( HWA ? or LCL? )
>> Arundhati Roy ---- ?
>> Medha Patkar ---- ?
>> Amnesty International --- ?
>> Kofi Annan ---- ?
>> Opposition MPs ----?
>> Governing party MPs ----?
>> West Begal Govt. ----?
>> Kerala Govt. ----?
>> Lallu Prasad Yadav ---?
>> POTAGA ---?
>> Arjun Singh ---?
>>
>> *** Also since you brought in the following
>> Assamnetter
>> personalities, what group
>> would they belong to:
>>
>> Chandan Mahanta ----- ?
>> Jugal Kalita -----?
>> Krishendu Chakravarty-----?
>>
>>
>> Reasonable people might guess that there may not be
>> many belonging to
>> the HWA group mentioned in the DATGH.
>>
>> And since you AGREE with the main idea embedded in
>> this DATGH, but
>> since the illustrious author of the piece did not
>> give us any
>> example, other than one who left to Silicon valley
>> to set up that
>> billlion dollar company, please provide us a few
>> examples of who
>> might fit the HWA group well.
>>
>> I hope you will agree, that it is VERY IMPORTANT to
>> have those examples. So :
>>
>> 1: ----- ?
>> 2: ----- ?
>> 3: ----- ?
>> 4: ----- ?
>> 5: ----- ?
>>
>> **** Assuming you don't abandon ship or run for the
>> tall-grass at
>> this point, we should be able to zero in on your
>> answers with just
>> one or two more exercises.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am already excited!
>>
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>> At 4:18 PM -0700 7/2/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
>> wrote:
>> >C'da
>> >
>> >I would not like to get into yet another lengthy
>> >discussion. I will try to answer your questions but
>> do
>> >expect you will answer some of my questions too ---
>> >
>> >The main idea of the story, as anybody with common
>> >sense will understand, is that people who are
>> >incapable of making it to higher ups, cribs and
>> point
>> >fingers at those who have made it to higher ups
>> .....
>> >and I do agree to this.
> > >
>> >However, the reason of posting my questions for
>> you
>> >is NOT limited to this story.
>> >
>> >You have frequently tried to point out that Indian
>> >education system is dysfunctional. In many of your
>> >postings you have portraied that all who goes to
>> >IIT/IIM or get H1 or get a decent job, have an
>> >affluent parent who earned money through illegel
>> (or
>> >unethical) means.
>> >
>> >I know that many of the netters including you,
>> Jugalda
>> >who are very established in their own field have a
>> >background which is more aligned to BK's third son.
>> >Though my background is not that bad, it is pretty
>> >close.
>> >
>> >I would be interested to know HOW you made it to
>> IIT
>> >and later to USA?
>> >How come the dysfunctional Indian education not
>> stop
>> >you from achiving this?
>> >Why do you think Indian Education system is
>> >dysfunctional?
>> >In US, majority of students making it to top rank
>> >Schools are from Private School. Does the US
>> education
>> >system also flawed so as not to allow BK's third
>> son
>> >to make it to top ?
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> OK, here we go.
>>
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