[Assam] assam Digest, Vol 44, Issue 17 - About the Name Assam
Wahid Saleh(GM)
wahid.saleh at gmail.com
Sun Mar 15 09:37:26 PDT 2009
>>In the same token, why would I accept "Asam" as written by a Dutch in 17th
century as an authentic name? The Dutch, just like the British cannot
pronounce "Oxom".<<
I assume Mr. Deka has firsthand experience hearing the Dutch pronouncing
Oxom.
>>I will continue to believe that the name Assam was Anglicised until proven
otherwise--- beyond the shadow of a doubt, of course, by real historians,
who spent decades studying Assam's history and not by neophyte historians.
<<
I dont dare to include myself in the group of neophyte historians of Assam
as I did not even finish my high school in Assam. I also dont fall into the
group of amateur historians.
All I tried to do was to support and provide information - on the basis of
historical documents - that the name Assam was not given by the British. The
name Assam was already in use before the English came to India.
It seems Mr. Deka has more faith in - real historians- like Prof. Priyam
Goswami, head of the Guwahati Universitys History department ( I don't know
if Prof. Goswami spent decades studying Assam's history) who argued,
>> "The word Assam was coined during the colonial period. Historically, it
was Asom, but during British rule Assam Tea became so famous as a brand that
colonial rulers did not attempt to correct the states name."
Assam to fall off the map, turn Asom, Times of India 26-02-06. <<
Prof. Goswami did not say on what basis it was argued that historically the
name was Asom. Moreover not a single publication is available to show that
the British invented the name Assam.
>>In the fitness of thing, the entire matter ought to be left for those, who
are in the business of reading, analyzing and interpreting the nitty-gritty
historical facts and data.
>>
Problem in Assam is that those "who are in the business of reading,
analyzing and interpreting the nitty-gritty historical facts and data" that
they even argue that the name Assam is associated with "Assam Tea". The
general public has no problem in accepting the arguments.
Mr. Deka has also no problem in quoting Amelndu Guhas work where the author
mentions about 'Kamarupa' in the Kalika-Purana. Mr. Deka accepts it as a
historical publication. Whereas Kalika Purana is a religious book of the
Puranic culture and is composed to popularise the cult of Sakti, especially
the worship of the Goddess Kamakhy. I understand that it also mentions not
only about animal sacrifice but also about human sacrifice. It has nothing
to do with the history of Assam except that it said to be composed in
Kamrupa.
There is saying in Arabic ten men can take a horse to water. But they
cannot force him to drink.
But still I want to present the following pre-British publications where the
name Assam (and also about the Assamese people) are mentioned. As they were
published in France, Dutch, Persian etc. not many scholars were interested
in them. Assam at that time was almost terra incognita to the rest of the
world.
Fathiya-i-Ibriyya also known as Tarikh-i-Assam was written by Ibn Muhammad
Wali Ahmad (also known as Shihabuddin Talish), responsible for writing the
history of war operation of Mir Jumla (1660 -1663 AD). He recorded the
events as he saw them personally. There are two parts of the book, the first
part called Fathiyya. I understand that a copy of this part is preserved in
the Asiatic Society Library, Calcutta and the second part was preserved in
the Khuda Bakhsh Oriental Public Library, Bankipur (Patna established in
1891), Bihar. This part deals with Mir Jumla's conquest of Assam, and for
that it was also known as Tarikh-i-Assam. Talish used the name Assam as it
was known at that time. His account of the naval battles in Assam is almost
similar to the description of the Dutch sailor Franz van de Heiden who
fought with the army of Mir Jumla.
An account of Assam by Dr. John Peter Wade (1800, London) is generally
considered to be the first European accounts of Assam. But precious accounts
of other travellers written in languages other than English were not
available to the readers and historians who knew only English.
For example Jean-Baptiste Chevalier, who becomes Governor of the French
colony of Candranagar in 1767, visited Assam for about two years in
1755-1757, thereafter, he settled at the Goalpara border and stayed there
for four years. He left two manuscripts: a Journal of my Travel in Assam,
notes taken on the spot, and a Historical Memory of my Works and Services
in India, written afterwards and remained as a family possession and was
not published. About two decades ago the renowned indologist and historian
Jean Deloche, re-discovered the work of Chevalier in a Parisian library and
got them published in 1984 under the title: Les aventures de J.B. Chevalier
dans Ilnde Orientale. It is now translated into English by Caroline Dutta -
Baruah and Jean Deloche. Chevaliers account has great value for the history
of Assam as it depicts the way of life at the Ahom court in the 18th
century.
In her article The Tai-Ahom connection by Dr. Yasmin Saikia, she writes
about the myths of Ahom origin:
Quote
It appears that the first myths about Ahom were created by the British
agents. Borrowing from the myths of Ahom origin compiled by J.P. Wade, the
first British resident in Assam, Walter Hamilton-Buchannan introduced the
term Ahom in the East India Gazetteer in 1828. He claimed that originally a
group of Shan warriors led by a mythical godlike figure called Sukapha came
to Assam in 1228 and established an Ahom kingdom. Buchannans story of the
Ahom which was neatly packaged within a western linear chronology became a
colonial discourse in the early 19th century.
Unquote
The Portuguese went to India and also to Assam before the Dutch and English.
It seems there are a still a few villages in Western Assam where decedents
of Portuguese live. May be some readers can through some light on it. It
will be interesting to know how the Portuguese called Assam at that time. In
my research on the subject of Indo-Dutch relation I have discovered that the
first Dutchman who went to India sailed not from the Netherlands but from
Portugal to Goa. In this connection I have also discovered that the
Portuguese historian João de Barros (1496-1570) has published the History
of the Portuguese and their Oversees Territories in 1552. I am now in
contact with an Indian expert in Lisbon to find out if there is any
historical publication from the early visit of the Portuguese to Bengal and
if anything about Assam is mentioned.
As an interested person I shall follow the trail and see what I can
discover. It is up to the others what they do with the information.
Wahid Saleh
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:09:40 -0500
From: kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
Subject: [Assam] A letter to The Editor
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The following letter,appeared in The Sentinel,is quite interesting.
KJD
Letters to the Editor * *
: *Do we Respect our Own Language?*
Through The Sentinel I would like to draw the attention of the Chief
Minister of Assam, Tarun Gogoi, that in its Eighth Schedule, the
Constitution of India recognizes 22 major Indian languages including
Assamese, Bengali, Bodo, Hindi, Nepali, Urdu etc.
Long ago in 1960, the Assam Government proclaimed Assamese as the State?s
official language, just as Bengali is the State?s official language in
neighbouring West Bengal. As we all know, the State Civil Service
Examination conducted by the WPSC (West Bengal Public Service Commission)
consists of one compulsory paper in Bengali/Hindi/Nepali/Urdu with
compulsory papers in English and General Studies and other optional
subjects.
Likewise, a candidate who takes the Civil Service Examination conducted by
the UPSC must select one language paper from among the 22 language papers
and he/she must secure pass marks in that paper. In our State too, the APSC
(Assam Public Service Commission) conducts the State Civil Service
Examination, but there is no provision for a compulsory language paper.
The 70th session of the Asom Sahitya Sabha was recently held in Dhemaji. In
the session, the newly elected president of the Sabha, Rong Bong Terang,
said that ??language is the soul of a nation?? and ??without it a nation
cannot at all prosper??. Again, in the international arena, Assamese is
among the 21 Indian languages that finds a place in the application forms
brought out by the present US Government, which has a total of 101 languages
from across the world listed in the form?s ?international experience?
section. No doubt, this is good news for Assam and the entire Northeast.
Again, in terms of the number of speakers, Assamese is ranked 46th among all
the languages of the world. But the fact remains that even after 61 years of
independence, the status of Assamese language in its own land has barely
improved.
In my view, the time has come when we ought to question ourselves: Is
Assamese language getting its due respect?
Amit Chakraborty,
Udyapur, Birubari,
Guwahati-16.
JD
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 07:46:51 +0530 (IST)
From: uttam borthakur <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
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I think a 'real historian' Dr. Jogen Phukan almost led an mass action
against the change of name to Asom for same or similar reasons.
?
Uttam Kumar Borthakur
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Sent: Saturday, 14 March, 2009 7:45:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
I will continue to believe that the name Assam was Anglicised until proven
otherwise--- beyond the shadow of a doubt,of course, by real historians,who
spent decades studying Assam's history and not by neophyte historians
Dear Kamal Bhaity:
Thanks for your opinion on my article and stating your 'belief'.
My article was written not to change yours or anybody's 'belief', but to let
people see the facts and to think rationally analysing the available facts
of history. If one does that, one will normally come to the obvious
conclusion that Assam is not a anglicized word. In your writing also you
have indicated that. However your problem in still sticking to your old
belief that Assam is an anglicized word seems to be two:
1) You are convinced about the rational argument that Assam, Asam (phonetic
pronunciation only) is a local word but that you are not yet 100% convinced
and that you still have some shadow of doubt.
2) Your other problem is that you want to see some writing by some "real"
historians and not to be convinced by writing of of some 'neophyte
historians" like us.? Here what you are saying is that you would have been
convinced of our arguments had we been "real" historians. I cannot help you
there. But I take it as a compliment. Because what you are saying is that if
I would have a PhD degree in history you would have been convinced beyond a
shadow of doubt that my arguments are correct and the name Assam or Asam is
not an anglicized word. ( I think I qualify for your other requirement. I
have spent decades now studying the history of Assam albeit not for any
degree.)
I can however help you to some extent by submitting the following.
Hope you remember that in 2006, we (some neophyte historians) wrote a
Petition to the Chief Minister of Assam not to change the name of Assam to
Asom. The main arguments of the Petition was that 'Assam' is not an
anglicized word but a word which was rooted in local culture. We sent the
Petition to many historians, intellectuals and men of letters of Assam for
their support and signatures. To convince them of our argument, I personally
took the pain to discuss with many of them and sent them the? earlier
version of my article. You will be happy to know all of them that we have
approcahed supported our arguments and signed the Petition. These include
several Ex President of Axam Xahutya Xobha and many notable historians
including Dr Jogendra Nath Phukan and Dr Sayeeda Yasmin Saikia. It was also
supported by Dr Bhupen Hazarika, Dr Hiren Gohain and whose signature did not
appear in the Petition. I present this as their stamp of approval of my
arguments for
your information since you are looking for support from "real" historians.
Besides these, there are many "real" historians who have shown that 'Assam'
or 'Asam" is not a anglicised name. I have cited some in my article. You
will have read for yourself to see their writing.
I post below the first fefteen signatories to the Petion (the fist three
being the 'neophyte historians, in your words)
Again, I am not trying to change your belief, but laying the facts for
rational thinking.
The fist fifteen signatories of the Petition:
1)Rajen & Ajanta Barua, Katy, Texas, USA (Engineer, Writer & Manager)
2)Chandan & Dr. Bonti Mahanta, St Louis, MO, USA (Architect & Radiologist)
3)Wahid Saleh, Berkel en Rodenrijs, The Netherlands. (Retired IT Manager,
Community service)
4)Homen Borgohain, Guwahati, Assam, ((Ex President Axam Xahitya Xabha)
5)Dr. Nagen Saikia , Guwahati, Assam (Ex President, Axam Xahitya Xabha)
6)Dr.Biren Dutta, Guwahati, Assam, (Ex President Axam Xahitya Xabha)
7)Dr. Lakhinandan Bora, Guwahati, Assam , (Ex President Axam Xahitya Xabha)
8)Dr. Mamoni Raisom Goswami, Guwahati/Delhi, (Gyanpith Award Winner,
Novelist, Professor)
9)Nagen Baruah, Dibrugarh, Assam (President Ahom Xahitya Xabha)
10)Dr. Jogendra Nath Phukan, Guwahati, Assam (Professor of History)
11)Sanjoy Hazarika, Guwahati/Delhi, India (Journalist, Author, Social
Worker)
12)Shantikam & Sangita Hazarika, Guwahati, (Founder Director of AIM & Dance
Teacher)
13)Sumanta Chaliha, Guwahati, Assam, (Lexicographer, Author of Assamese
Dictionaries)
14)Dr. Amrit Kr. Baruah, Baltimore, Maryland, USA (Writer, Author,
Management Consultant)
15)Dr. Sayeeda Yasmin Saikia, Chapel Hill, NC, USA (Professor of History,
Author on Ahom Buronjis)
Rajen & Ajanta Barua
From: kamal deka
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:47 PM
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
I will continue to believe that the name Assam was Anglicised until proven
otherwise--- beyond the shadow of a doubt,of course, by real historians,who
spent decades studying Assam's history and not by neophyte historians
In various documents of British East India Company, in their relationships
with the last few Ahom kings, the name of country was mentioned as Assam.
After the fall of the Ahom kingdom and the conquest by the British in 1826,
in the Treaty of Yandabo, "Assam" was used to denote the area under the
erstwhile Ahoms, and its protectorates .
*Theories on etymology*
Though there exists a consensus on the fact that the name Assam is
associated with the Ahom kingdom, and the exact etymology of Assam is not
clear.The ere are a number of theories that address this issue.
*Ha-sam*
According to Amalendu Guha "The Ahom domain of Upper Assam came to be known
to the Dimasa and other Bodo people as "Ha-Sam" (the land of the Shams or
Shans) in etheir language. From this the terms 'Asam' and 'Ahom' were
derived in due course, and the first term came to stand for the expanded
Ahom klngdom. Under the impact of the Indo-Aryan heritage of the region, the
concept of 'Asam' was further extended to cover the entire area defined as
'Kamarupa' in the Kalika-Purana (c 9th-10th centuries). The Ahom statesmen
and chroniclers wishfully looked forward to the Karatoya as their natural
western frontier. They also looked upon themselves as the heirs of that
glory that was ancient Kamarupa by right of conquest, and they long
cherished infructuously their unfulfilled hopes of expanding up to that
frontier." [*The Ahom Political System: An Enquiry into the State Formation
Process in Medieval Assam (1228-1714), Amalendu Guha, Social Scientist, Vol.
11, No. 12. (Dec., 1983), pp. 3-34.*]
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>> Wahid:
>> Thanks. As I have shown in my article, the name 'Asam' or 'Asham' (for
the
>> name of the land) was much older than? whcih came to be used for the name
of
>> the land only in the 17th century. Originally, the word? was used in the
>> Kirton by Sri Xongkordeu for the Ti Ahom people in the 15th century.
>> According to me, this word? (for the people) as used by Xongkordeu, was
>> originally derived from the word Asahm (for the people written in
Devanagari
>> and Urdu skript) by the Moghols. This word? later was used for the land
>> (instead of the people), and a new word Ahom was used for the people.
Thus
>> Ahom is also a new word, which is not to found in Ti Ahom Buronjis.
Please
>> note that the word Asham was originally used for the people and was later
>> changed to mean the land instead of the people when the Moghols used the
>> name in correspondence.
>> Thanks
>> Rajen
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Wahid Saleh(GM) <<mailto:
>> wahid.saleh at gmail.com>wahid.saleh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rajen,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your article " "In your article you mentioned about
>> Glanius.
>>
>>
>> Till now almost all the historians thought that Glanius went to Assam.
But
>> it was not Glanius who went to Assam. It was a Dutch sailor named Frans
van
>> der Heiden who had to fight with the army of Mirju Mala. He kept a diary
>> which was first published in 1675. It is very difficult to find out who
>> Glanius was. He translated three books from Dutch including the diary of
>> Frans van der Heiden. The English translation was published in 1682 (from
>> UK). In his translation he used first person and nowhere mentioned or
>> referred to the name of the original author Frans van de Heiden. As most
of
>> the historians had access to the English translation only, they took it
for
>> granted that Glanius went to Assam. I tried to find out about Glanius and
>> published an article. Here you will get some back ground information. A
>> mistake did slip in to this version of the article. I misspelt the name
of
>> Dr. Surya Kumar Bhuyan as Dr. Surya Kanta Bhuyan.
>>
>> It is certain that the name Assam existed before Mirju Mala invaded Assam
>> and before the English came to Assam. Otherwise Frans van der Heiden
would
>> not be in a position to write about Assam and Assmers. Different Mughal
>> historians used the names Assam, Asham, Ascham, Acham and ?s?m in their
>> writings." Asom" with an "o" in between was unknown to them. In
particular,
>> the word Assam (Asham) is mentioned in the following publications: Abul
>> Fazal All?mi in his compilation of Akbarnama, a biographical account of
>> Akbar (1542 -1605) mentioned "Rajah of Asham".
>>
>> The name Assam existed when Frans van der Heiden wrote his diary in 1662.
>> To write about the place and its inhabitants he used the name of the
State
>> as it was known at that time to the local people. Otherwise he would not
>> have used the name.
>>
>> So we should start asking the question when was the name of Assam changed
>> to ? In any case it is after 1662.
>>
>> Wahid
>>
>>
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>> Onderwerp: [FriendsofAssamNE] RE: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>
>> Friends
>> Looks like many people still think that Assam is an englished word of the
>> word Oxom. In fact pronounciation Asam (now a days written as Assam) is
much
>> older than the Assamese word Oxom which is of later origin. One may read
my
>> article attached.
>> Rajen Barua
>>
>>
>>
>>? Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:10:59 -0600
>>>? To: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>>>? From: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at charter.net
>>>? Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>>
>>>? > whereas we know for sure the local people at that time as now
>>>? >called the land "Oxom",
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>? *** You do?
>>>
>>>? So much for the certitude of the omniscient!!
>>>
>>>? Did you know that the Ahom people, by and large, cannot pronounce the
>>>? 'xo' sound and pronounce it as 'ho' or 'kho'?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>? At 2:02 PM -0700 3/8/09, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>>>? >".......an invention of an European, and thus not credible?" - I am
>>>? >not suggesting that at all. I am not Europhobic. :-)
>>>? >
>>>? >Let's take the British days - the maps and the official records
>>>? >meticulously prepared during that time called "Oxom" as "Assam"
>>>? >whereas we know for sure the local people at that time as now called
>>>? >the land "Oxom", the big difference being the sound of "x" versus
>>>? >"s". What credibility would you give to the authenticity of the name
>>>? >"Assam" used by the British?
>>>? >In the same token, why would I accept "Asam" as written by a Dutch
>>>? >in 17th century as an authentic name? The Dutch, just like the
>>>? >British cannot pronounce "Oxom".
>>>? >If you accept "Asam" as in Dutch map as the original name, when did
>>>? >it change to today's "Oxom" and who changed it?
>>>? >
>>>? >I still say "Assam" is anglicized and "Asam" is Hollandized. Boy!
>>>? >that sounds too much like Hollandaise sauce.
>>>? >I am surprised there was no comment on the rest of my email.
>>>? >Dilip
>>>? >
>>>? >
>>>? >
>>>? >
>>>? >________________________________
>>>? >From: Chan Mahanta <<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>? >To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>>? >world <<mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org>; <mailto:
>>> adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com
>>>? >Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 4:25:08 PM
>>>? >Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>>? >
>>>? >
>>>? >> But I wouldn't use these books nor a book written in another
>>>? >>European language (Dutch) to prove that >Assam is an indigenous word.
>>>? >
>>>? >
>>>? >*** Why? Are you suggested the Dutch traveller who prepared the map
>>> where
>>>? >Assam is recorded as "Asam" was likely an invention of an European,
>>>? >and thus not credible?
>>>? >
>>>? >
>>>? >
>>>? >
>>>? >
>>>? >
>>>? >At 12:50 PM -0700 3/8/09, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>>>? >>Kamal,
>>>? >>In today's parlance, you are absolutely correct. The local people
>>>
>>? > >>call the land "Oxom" and, themselves "Oxomiya". When those words
>>
>>>? >>are written as "Assam" and "Assamese", it is an attempt to anglicize
>>>? >>the locally used words.
>>>? >>
>>>? >>Now whether Oxom was derived from another word that was local to the
>>>? >>area and non-Sanskrit in its origin is another issue.
>>>? >>As we all know the region (at least the western part) was called
>>>? >>Kamrupa in ancient literature. For the name Kamrupa to change to
>>>? >>Oxom, it is almost impossible. There is no resemblance between the
>>>? >>two words. So the natural assumption would be that the
>>>? >>transformation to Oxom did not happen with the so called Hindu
>>>? >>settlers of Assam from the west. It is more likely it happened with
>>>? > >the domination of Assam by the Ahoms, who for the first time in a
>>>? >>long time brought the people of the region under one rule through
>>>? >>political acumen.
>>>? >>
>>>? >>I have in my possession books written/compiled by British officers
>>>? >>where the word Assam is used. But I wouldn't use these books nor a
>>>? >>book written in another European language (Dutch) to prove that
>>>? >>Assam is an indigenous word. There needs to be more research done by
>>>? >>Xahitya Xobha, digging into the Buranjis of the Ahoms and whatever
>>>? >>remains of the Ahom language.
>>>? >>
>>>? >>I am told by my Ahom friends that many Buranjis were burnt during
>>>? >>the waning years of Ahom rule. I am also told many Buranjis are
>>>? >>still available in the Ahom villages kept as family heirloom. Does
>>>? >>anyone know how to read and decipher these tomes?
>>>? >>Isn't there a scholar in all of Assam who could trace through the
>>>? >>transformation of Ahom language from 1228 to the British days
>>>? >>to see if the name Oxom was coined by the Ahoms to describe their
>>> kingdom?
>>>? >>
>>>? >>When I am on a roll, let me also ask how the Shans from Burma
>>>? >>renamed themselves as Ahoms and when it happened.
>>>? >>If all of this is known to some netter, please publish it, so that
>>>? > >some of us not exposed to recent findings in Assam can learn and
>>>? >>stop arguing over a name.
>>>? >>
>>>? >>Dilip Deka
>>>? >>
>>>? >>
>>>? >>
>>>? >>
>>>? >>
>>>? >>________________________________
>>>? >>From: kamal deka <<mailto:kjit.deka at gmail.com>kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>>>? >>To: <mailto:adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com; A Mailing list
>>> for people interested in
>>>? >>Assam from around the world <<mailto:assam at assamnet.org>
>>> assam at assamnet.org>
>>>? >>Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:23:39 AM
>>>? >>Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>>? >>
>>>? >>In my humble view,the very word " Assam" is an Anglicised one.As an
>>>? >>adjective," Assamese " pertains to the characteristic of the people
of
>>>? >>Assam and their culture..As a noun,it means the native of Assam or
the
>>>? >>language of Assam.
>>>? >>In view of the above fact.Assam Sahitya Sabha may not be in error.
>>>? >>Kamal
>>>? >>
>>>? >>On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Ajoy Hazarika <<mailto:
>>> adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>? >>
>>>? >>> Dear Oxom Xahityo Xobha:
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>> I agree with Chandan Mahanta. If you do not know anything about it,
>>>? >>> an article written by H. Borgohain. I could not find the article,
>>>? >>> otherwise I could have forwarded to you.
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>> Hi Chandan, Rajen, if you have that article please forward that to
.
>>> Oxom
>>>? >>> Xahityo Xobha
>>>? >>> Oxom Xahityo Xobha. It will also help if Oxom Xahityo Xobha study
>>>? >>> the Bodo language. There are other historical facts. Chandan and
>>> Rajen
>>>? >>> can help.
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>> A. D. Hazarika
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Chan Mahanta <<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>>>? >>> From: Chan Mahanta <<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>? >>> Subject: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>>? >>> To: <mailto:info at axomxahityaxobha.org>info at axomxahityaxobha.org
>>>? >>> Cc: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>>>? >>> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 9:05 PM
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>> Dear Oxom Xahityo Xobha:
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>> >In 1917 the Asom Sahitya Sabha was formed as a
>>>? >>> >guardian of the Assamese society and the forum for the
>>>? >> > >development of Assamese language and literature.
>>>? >>> >The word Assamese is an English one, built on the same
>>>
>>? > >>> >principle as Cingalese, Canarese, etc. It is based on the
>>
>>>? >>> >English word Assam by which the tract consisting of the
>>>? >>> >Brahmaputra valley is known.
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>> *** It is pretty sad that you don't know the origins of the name
>>>? >>> Assam, that you claim is an English name.
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>> It is such display of ignorance of our history and an absence of
>>>? >>> intellectual curiosity to know what it truly is, that makes the
>>> likes
>>>? >>> of Oxom Xahityo Xobha irrelevant to our cultural heritage
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>> Sondon Mohonto
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>> USA
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>>>? >>>
>>>? >>>
>>>? >>>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:05:18 -0500
From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
world <assam at assamnet.org>
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>I HOPE,I AM NOT ASKING FOR THE MOON.
*** Nothing wring in asking for the moon if to
hold and have the moon is something that turns
one on :-).
But we are talking of different animals here.
One being able to see and read a historical
document that shows the land we know as Oxom or
Assam, was called Asam/Asham/Assamer , way back
in the late seventeenth century; while the other
being something of an 'alaaxot saang pota kotha',
like asking for the moon. The two are very
different issues.
Haalodhi's efficacy as an anti-carcinogenic
agent may require a lot of research into the
chemistry of the material and actual human
testing. But no such testing is either required
or called for, to, say, determine that the Taj
Mahal was built on the order of Shah Jehan, or
that the land we come from and call Oxom used to
be called Asam/Asham/or Assam way back in the
late seventeenth century, even before the British
went there.
So the analogies presented were inapplicable.
At 8:18 PM -0500 3/14/09, kamal deka wrote:
>There is no dearth of historiographer in Assam or India ( I hope,I haven't
>erred.This is my presumption).By historiography,I mean to indicate the
>history of historical writing which involves the history and biography of
>historians,the context in which they lived and wrote and not least,the
>assumptions,theories and methods they used.
>I HOPE,I AM NOT ASKING FOR THE MOON.
>It reminds me of turmeric ( halodhi) a spice, we all are familiar with.It
is
>said that the turmeric prevents certain cancer.A tremendous amount of
>research has been going on here in America to find out the authenticity of
>its anti-tumour property before the final product is out in the open.Just
an
>example.
>
>On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> IN WHAT WAY AM I WRONG IN SAYING THAT THOSE " DISCOVERIES"ARE SUBJECTED
>>> TO >SCRUTINY BEFORE IT CAN BE ACCEPTED AS AN ESTABLISHED FACT?
>>>
>>
>>
>> *** Personally, I like to think I can look at a document and decide
whether
>> it is real or fake or exaggerated or doctored.
>>
>> The document produced by Wahid Saleh from the Dutch museum looks quite
>> authentic. If authenticity of that document is what bothers me, I would
say
>> so. I might say that pending verification of authenticity of the
document,
>> I will hold my acceptance . But I won't say I won't accept it, because
an
>> amateur has found the document. That is the difference.
>>
>> *** That would lead us to the qualifications of the verifier/s. Who
would
>> qualify as someone whose certification we might accept? A president of
the
>> OXX? A GU professor? A Dutch scientist? Who?
>> If we say that, surely that would be NOT nearly as unreasonable as
>> proclaiming non-acceptance because of lack of professional credentials
of
>> those who found the historical document.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 2:08 PM -0500 3/14/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>
>>> Any run-of-the-mill citizen can assemble a few books and write an
>>> article
>>> but that cannot be taken as an infallible one.THIS IS THE REASON AS TO
WHY
>>> I
>>> REFUSE TO ACCEPT THEIR INTERPRETATION AS A
>>>GOSPEL TRUTH.IN<http://truth.in/>WHAT WAY AM I
>>> WRONG IN SAYING THAT THOSE " DISCOVERIES"ARE SUBJECTED TO SCRUTINY
BEFORE
>>> IT
>>> CAN BE ACCEPTED AS AN ESTABLISHED FACT?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> *** One is at liberty to accept or deny anything under the sun. It is
a
>>>> free-country as they say.
>>>>
>>>> But in a forum like ours, we expect some explanation as to WHY one
would
>>>> refuse to accept a documented proof like the name of
>>>> Assam/Asam/Asham/Assamer etc. It should be quite immaterial who
produces
>>>> the
>>>> proof, unless the persona of the messenger is the problem. The
argument
> >>> that those who produce the proof are amateurs is about the weakest
of
>>>> alibis
>>>> one can imagine.
>>>>
> >>> To refuse to put forth a reason therefore could be interpreted as an
>>>> absence of one.
>>>>
>>>> Makind's most enlightening discoveries were made not by recognized
>>>> professionals. They were made by amateurs with a passion for
knowledge
>>>> and
>>>> discovery.
>>>>
>>>> cm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 9:58 PM -0500 3/13/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I remain unconvinced.
>>>>> In the fitness of thing,the entire matter ought to be left for
>>>>> those,who
>>>>> are
>>>>> in the business of reading,analyzing and interpreting the
nitty-gritty
>>>>> historical facts and data.
>>>>> I refuse to accept the interpretation put forward by Saleh/Barua as
an
>>>>> unshakable truth.
>>>>> As far as I am concerned,their explanation is of no
consequence,pending
>>>>> full
>>>>> verification by the competent ones.
>>>>> Meanwhile,those self-proclaimed neo-historians should stop the
tamasha
>>>>> of
>>>>> re-writing and re-interpreting facts in regard to Assam's
>>>>> history,who,perhaps,haven't studied the subject seriously save
>>>>> high-school
>>>>> history :-)
>>>>> No further response will be undertaken on this topic from this end.
>>>>> Thank you all.
>>>>> Kamal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > From this the terms 'Asam' and 'Ahom' were
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> derived in due course, and the first term came to stand for the
>>>>>>> expanded
>>>>>>> Ahom klngdom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** That is a believable conjecture. What is missing here is WHEN
did
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> DUE COURSE happen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was it after the British came? If it did it will be reasonable to
>>>>>> suspect
>>>>>> and hold on to the notion that Assam or Asam were anglicized
forms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But we know from written accounts , like the Dutch chronicler's
>>>>>> accounts
>>>>>> and pre-British Mughal history
>>>>>> that Assam/Asam/Asham etc. were there long before the British
arrived.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know how much more conclusive proof one needs therefore for
us
>>>>>>
>>>>> >>> to
>>>
>>>> accept the fact that the Assam was there before the British came ?
But
>>>>>>
>>>>> >>> then
>>>
>>>> again one is at liberty to suspect the Theory of Evolution too!
There
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be plenty of company, even good ones :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 10:47 PM -0500 3/12/09, kamal deka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will continue to believe that the name Assam was Anglicised until
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> proven
>>>>>>> otherwise--- beyond the shadow of a doubt,of course, by real
>>>>>>> historians,who
>>>>>>> spent decades studying Assam's history and not by neophyte
historians
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In various documents of British East India Company, in their
>>>>>>> relationships
>>>>>>> with the last few Ahom kings, the name of country was mentioned as
>>>>>>> Assam.
>>>>>>> After the fall of the Ahom kingdom and the conquest by the British
in
>>>>>>> 1826,
>>>>>>> in the Treaty of Yandabo, "Assam" was used to denote the area
under
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> erstwhile Ahoms, and its protectorates .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Theories on etymology*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Though there exists a consensus on the fact that the name Assam is
>>>>>>> associated with the Ahom kingdom, and the exact etymology of Assam
is
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> clear.The ere are a number of theories that address this issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Ha-sam*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to Amalendu Guha "The Ahom domain of Upper Assam came to
be
>>>>>>> known
>>>>>>> to the Dimasa and other Bodo people as "Ha-Sam" (the land of the
>>>>>>> Shams
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> Shans) in etheir language. From this the terms 'Asam' and
'Ahom'
>>>>>> were
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> derived in due course, and the first term came to stand for the
>>>>>> expanded
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ahom klngdom. Under the impact of the Indo-Aryan heritage of the
>>>>>>> region,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> concept of 'Asam' was further extended to cover the entire area
> >>>>>> defined
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> 'Kamarupa' in the Kalika-Purana (c 9th-10th centuries). The Ahom
> >>>>>> statesmen
>>>>>>> and chroniclers wishfully looked forward to the Karatoya as their
>>>>>>> natural
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> western frontier. They also looked upon themselves as the heirs
of
>>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>> glory that was ancient Kamarupa by right of conquest, and they long
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cherished infructuously their unfulfilled hopes of expanding up to
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> frontier." [*The Ahom Political System: An Enquiry into the State
>>>>>>> Formation
>>>>>>> Process in Medieval Assam (1228-1714), Amalendu Guha, Social
>>>>>>> Scientist,
>>>>>>> Vol.
>>>>>>> 11, No. 12. (Dec., 1983), pp. 3-34.*]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Forwarded from: Fwd: [Assam Society] Re: [FriendsofAssamNE]
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:50:23 -0500
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Assam Society] Re: [FriendsofAssamNE] RE: [Assam]
About
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Name
>>>>>>>>> Assam
>>>>>>>>> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email-ff-m
>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: AssamSociety at yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wahid:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks. As I have shown in my article, the name 'Asam' or
'Asham'
>>>>>>>>> (for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> name of the land) was much older than whcih came to be used for
> >>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> name of
>>>>>>>>> the land only in the 17th century. Originally, the word was
used
> >>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Kirton by Sri Xongkordeu for the Ti Ahom people in the 15th
>>>>>>>>> century.
>>>>>>>>> According to me, this word (for the people) as used by
Xongkordeu,
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> originally derived from the word Asahm (for the people written
in
>>>>>>>>> Devanagari
>>>>>>>>> and Urdu skript) by the Moghols. This word later was used for
the
>>>>>>>>> land
>>>>>>>>> (instead of the people), and a new word Ahom was used for the
>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Thus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Ahom is also a new word, which is not to found in Ti Ahom Buronjis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>>> note that the word Asham was originally used for the people and
was
>>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>> changed to mean the land instead of the people when the Moghols
>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> name in correspondence.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> Rajen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Wahid Saleh(GM) <<mailto:
>>>>>>>>> wahid.saleh at gmail.com>wahid.saleh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Rajen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing your article " "In your article you mentioned
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> Glanius.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Till now almost all the historians thought that Glanius went to
>>>>>>>>> Assam.
>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>> it was not Glanius who went to Assam. It was a Dutch sailor
named
>>>>>>>>> Frans
>>>>>>>>> van
>>>>>>>>> der Heiden who had to fight with the army of Mirju Mala. He kept
a
>>>>>>>>> diary
>>>>>>>>> which was first published in 1675. It is very difficult to find
out
>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>> Glanius was. He translated three books from Dutch including the
>>>>>>>>> diary
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> Frans van der Heiden. The English translation was published in
1682
>>>>>>>>> (from
>>>>>>>>> UK). In his translation he used first person and nowhere
mentioned
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> referred to the name of the original author Frans van de Heiden.
As
>>>>>>>>> most of
>>>>>>>>> the historians had access to the English translation only, they
>>>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> granted that Glanius went to Assam. I tried to find out about
>>>>>>>>> Glanius
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> published an article. Here you will get some back ground
>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>> mistake did slip in to this version of the article. I misspelt
the
>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Surya Kumar Bhuyan as Dr. Surya Kanta Bhuyan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is certain that the name Assam existed before Mirju Mala
invaded
>>>>>>>>> Assam
>>>>>>>>> and before the English came to Assam. Otherwise Frans van der
>>>>>>>>> Heiden
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> not be in a position to write about Assam and Assmers. Different
>>>>>>>>> Mughal
>>>>>>>>> historians used the names Assam, Asham, Ascham, Acham and ?s?m
in
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> writings." Asom" with an "o" in between was unknown to them. In
>>>>>>>>> particular,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> the word Assam (Asham) is mentioned in the following
>>> publications:
>>>
>>>> Abul
>>>>>>>>> Fazal All?mi in his compilation of Akbarnama, a biographical
>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>> of
>>>
>>>> Akbar (1542 -1605) mentioned "Rajah of Asham".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The name Assam existed when Frans van der Heiden wrote his diary
in
>>>>>>>>> 1662.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >> To write about the place and its inhabitants he used the
name
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the State
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as it was known at that time to the local people. Otherwise he
would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have used the name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So we should start asking the question when was the name of
Assam
>>>>>>>>> changed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >> to ? In any case it is after 1662.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wahid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Van: <mailto:FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com [mailto:<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>
FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com>FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com]
> >>>>>>>> Namens
>>>>>>>>> Rajen Barua
>>>>>>>>> Verzonden: maandag 9 maart 2009 13:40
> >>>>>>>> Aan: assamnet
>>>>>>>>> CC: <mailto:FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> FriendsofAssamNE at yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>>> Onderwerp: [FriendsofAssamNE] RE: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Friends
>>>>>>>>> Looks like many people still think that Assam is an englished
word
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> word Oxom. In fact pronounciation Asam (now a days written as
>>>>>>>>> Assam)
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> older than the Assamese word Oxom which is of later origin. One
may
>>>>>>>>> read my
>>>>>>>>> article attached.
>>>>>>>>> Rajen Barua
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:10:59 -0600
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: <mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>cmahanta at charter.net
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > whereas we know for sure the local people at that time as now
>>>>>>>>>> >called the land "Oxom",
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *** You do?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So much for the certitude of the omniscient!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you know that the Ahom people, by and large, cannot
pronounce
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 'xo' sound and pronounce it as 'ho' or 'kho'?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>******************************************************************
*********************************************
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At 2:02 PM -0700 3/8/09, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >".......an invention of an European, and thus not credible?" -
I
>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>> >not suggesting that at all. I am not Europhobic. :-)
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >Let's take the British days - the maps and the official
records
>>>>>>>>>> >meticulously prepared during that time called "Oxom" as
"Assam"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >whereas we know for sure the local people at that time
as
>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> called
>>>>>
>>>>> >the land "Oxom", the big difference being the sound of "x" versus
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >"s". What credibility would you give to the authenticity of the
>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>> >"Assam" used by the British?
>>>>>>>>>> >In the same token, why would I accept "Asam" as written by a
>>>>>>>>>> Dutch
>>>>>>>>>> >in 17th century as an authentic name? The Dutch, just like the
>>>>>>>>>> >British cannot pronounce "Oxom".
>>>>>>>>>> >If you accept "Asam" as in Dutch map as the original name,
when
>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>> >it change to today's "Oxom" and who changed it?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >I still say "Assam" is anglicized and "Asam" is Hollandized.
Boy!
>>>>>>>>>> >that sounds too much like Hollandaise sauce.
>>>>>>>>>> >I am surprised there was no comment on the rest of my email.
>>>>>>>>>> >Dilip
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >From: Chan Mahanta <<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>>> cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>>> >To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around
the
>>>>>>>>>> >world <<mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org>;
<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>> >Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 4:25:08 PM
>>>>>>>>>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
>>>
>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> But I wouldn't use these books nor a book written in another
>>>>>>>>>> >>European language (Dutch) to prove that >Assam is an
indigenous
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> word.
>>>
>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >*** Why? Are you suggested the Dutch traveller who prepared
the
>>>>>>>>>> map
>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>> >Assam is recorded as "Asam" was likely an invention of an
>>>>>>>>>> European,
>>>>>>>>>> >and thus not credible?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >At 12:50 PM -0700 3/8/09, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> >>Kamal,
>>>>>>>>>> >>In today's parlance, you are absolutely correct. The local
> >>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > >>call the land "Oxom" and, themselves "Oxomiya". When those
>>>>>>>>>> words
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>are written as "Assam" and "Assamese", it is an attempt to
>>>>>>>>> anglicize
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>the locally used words.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>Now whether Oxom was derived from another word that was local
to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>area and non-Sanskrit in its origin is another issue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>As we all know the region (at least the western part)
was
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> called
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>Kamrupa in ancient literature. For the name Kamrupa to change
to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>Oxom, it is almost impossible. There is no resemblance between
the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>two words. So the natural assumption would be that the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>transformation to Oxom did not happen with the so called
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hindu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>settlers of Assam from the west. It is more likely it happened
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >the domination of Assam by the Ahoms, who for the first time
in a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>long time brought the people of the region under one rule
>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>> >>political acumen.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>I have in my possession books written/compiled by British
>>>>>>>>>> officers
>>>>>>>>>> >>where the word Assam is used. But I wouldn't use these books
nor
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> >>book written in another European language (Dutch) to prove
that
>>>>>>>>>> >>Assam is an indigenous word. There needs to be more research
>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> >>Xahitya Xobha, digging into the Buranjis of the Ahoms and
>>>>>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>>>>>> >>remains of the Ahom language.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>I am told by my Ahom friends that many Buranjis were burnt
>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>> >>the waning years of Ahom rule. I am also told many Buranjis
are
>>>>>>>>>> >>still available in the Ahom villages kept as family heirloom.
>>>>>>>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>>> >>anyone know how to read and decipher these tomes?
>>>>>>>>>> >>Isn't there a scholar in all of Assam who could trace through
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>transformation of Ahom language from 1228 to the British days
>>>>>>>>>> >>to see if the name Oxom was coined by the Ahoms to describe
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> kingdom?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>When I am on a roll, let me also ask how the Shans from Burma
>>>>>>>>>> >>renamed themselves as Ahoms and when it happened.
>>>>>>>>>> >>If all of this is known to some netter, please publish it, so
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> > >some of us not exposed to recent findings in Assam can learn
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> >>stop arguing over a name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>Dilip Deka
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >>From: kamal deka <<mailto:kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> kjit.deka at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >>To: <mailto:adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com; A
>>>>>>>>>> Mailing
>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> for people interested in
>>>>>>>>>> >>Assam from around the world <<mailto:assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> >>Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:23:39 AM
>>>>>>>>>> >>Subject: Re: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>In my humble view,the very word " Assam" is an Anglicised
one.As
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> >>adjective," Assamese " pertains to the characteristic of the
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> >>Assam and their culture..As a noun,it means the native of
Assam
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>language of Assam.
>>>>>>>>>> >>In view of the above fact.Assam Sahitya Sabha may not be in
>>>>>>>>>> error.
>>>>>>>>>> >>Kamal
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Ajoy Hazarika <<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> adhazarika at yahoo.com>adhazarika at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Dear Oxom Xahityo Xobha:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> I agree with Chandan Mahanta. If you do not know
>>> anything about
>>>
>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>> >>> an article written by H. Borgohain. I could not find the
>>>>>>>>>> article,
>>>>>>>>>> >>> otherwise I could have forwarded to you.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Hi Chandan, Rajen, if you have that article please forward
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> Oxom
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Xahityo Xobha
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Oxom Xahityo Xobha. It will also help if Oxom Xahityo Xobha
>>>>>>>>>> study
>>>>>>>>>> >>> the Bodo language. There are other historical facts.
Chandan
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Rajen
>>>>>>>>>> >>> can help.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> A. D. Hazarika
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Chan Mahanta <<mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>>> cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>> From: Chan Mahanta <<mailto:cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>>> cmahanta at charter.net>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Subject: [Assam] About the Name Assam
>>>>>>>>>> >>> To: <mailto:info at axomxahityaxobha.org>
>>>>>>>>>> info at axomxahityaxobha.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Cc: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 9:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Dear Oxom Xahityo Xobha:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> >In 1917 the Asom Sahitya Sabha was formed as a
>>>>>>>>>> >>> >guardian of the Assamese society and the forum for the
>>>>>>>>>> >> > >development of Assamese language and literature.
>>>>>>>>>> >>> >The word Assamese is an English one, built on the same
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>> >principle as Cingalese, Canarese, etc. It is based on the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> >English word Assam by which the tract consisting of the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> >Brahmaputra valley is known.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> *** It is pretty sad that you don't know the origins of the
>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>> Assam, that you claim is an English name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> It is such display of ignorance of our history and an absence
of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> intellectual curiosity to know what it truly is, that makes
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> likes
>>>>>>>>>> >>> of Oxom Xahityo Xobha irrelevant to our cultural heritage
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Sondon Mohonto
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> USA
>>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >>> assam mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> >>> <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>> <http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >>> assam mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> >>> <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>> <http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>assam mailing list
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >><http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet..org>
>>>>>>>>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet..org
>>>>>>>>>> >>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >>assam mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >><http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >assam mailing list
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