[Assam] ULFA no longer a force to be reckoned with, IB tells Centre - Sentinel

kamal deka kjit.deka at gmail.com
Thu Jun 10 06:48:41 PDT 2010 

Islam and secularism are just like incompatible blood groups.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is
a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military
components.
The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to
agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies
agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the
other components tend to creep in as well..

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any
given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a
peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.
This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 0..6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities
and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and
among street gangs.
This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

>From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to
their percentage of the population.
For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by
Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for
Muslims.
They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on
their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.
This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow
them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the
Islamic Law.
The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the
entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population,
they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their
conditions. In Paris ,
we are already seeing car-burnings.
Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats,
such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films
about Islam.
Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:


Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad
militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian
churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror
attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:


Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

>From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of nonbelievers of
all other religions (including nonconforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic
cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the
tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run
ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out
the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim,
such as has been experienced and in some ways is ongoing in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace.
Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim,
the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

KJD
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Jyotirmoy Sharma
<jyotirmoy.sharma at gmail.com> wrote:
> God bless India and Indians if India, Pak and Bangladesh form a
> federation. I thought the countries split because we could no longer
> live together. Let's face the reality. We are better off as we are.
> India is a developing country and is marching ahead inspite of all
> it's problems. India is one of the most unique country in the world.
> When western countries preach about values like democracy, equality, I
> think .. would they ever allow someone from a religious minority group
> to occupy the most powerful post in the country? It hasn't yet taken
> place and I doubt it will. Netters can correct me. Even Barak Obama
> had to hide his middle name during the campaign, although he has
> converted to Chritianity.
>
> While Bangladesh, under the current regime ( and even Sri Lanka )
> seems to be taking a strong resolve to root out terrorism, Pakistan is
> a failed state. Under no circumstance would they( meaning Pak govt )
> give up the idea of Kashmir. Infact no one can form a govt in Pak
> without having Kashmir in its agenda( It's a truth which  most
> Pakistanis will acknowledge. It's a different matter that most
> educated  everyday Pakistani citizens wouldn't be too worried about
> what happening in Indian Kashmir ). That is precisely the problem with
> Pakistan. Rather than worrying about improving their own country ,
> their policies are India centric.
> Now I read of ISI's direct involvement in 26/11( David Headley's
> confession .. I am sure some netters will even negate the validity of
> such confession )
> How many more Kasabs, Afzal Gurus does India want? We keep extending a
> friendly hand and everytime there is a kick in our butt. No wonder,
> India is taken for a ride by all.
> JS
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Dilip and Dil Deka
> <dilipdeka at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Netters,
>> Remember India, Bangladesh and Pakistan used to be one country  before the artificial borders were drawn. These borders did not draw lines around and change people's language, literature and culture overnight. So how can you distinguish someone from Bangladesh in the middle of similar people in India? Thus they are not detectable or deportable. Get used to it, I have been saying it for years - migration across artificial borders will keep happening, and you and I cannot do anything about it. Not even mighty :-) GOI cn solve this problem.
>>
>> Only solution is a new federation of the three countries so that people can freely move across the borders in the pursuit of livelihood and business, in stead of pursuing religious or political ideology. I know it sounds like  wishful thinking but it is possible if the social leaders put their minds to it.
>>
>> What's your take on it?
>> Dilip
>> Houston
>>
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at gmail.com>
>> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <assam at assamnet.org>
>> Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 9:17:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Assam] ULFA no longer a force to be reckoned with, IB tells Centre - Sentinel
>>
>> Those are very clever comments no doubt!
>>
>> What is not-so-clever, however, is the fact that the 'democratically elected'
>> desi-govt/s. have neither been able to find or deport them. So what do our
>> desi-demokrasy enthusiasts say about that? Is there a problem here with
>> desi-sorkar, one that the clever netters so glibly put their trust on, or is it a
>> problem with Uttam or is it a problem with the glib ones here ?
>>
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>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
>>
>>> KJD,
>>>
>>> I am a little intrigued that there is quite possibly this notion out there
>>> that there are NO illegal B'deshis in Assam,
>>> and that all this is a political ploy of some kind. Though, I haven't met
>>> any illegal (or Undocumented - in PC speak) B'deshis, we keep reading and
>>> hearing about vast numbers of B'deshis coming into Assam/NE, and even as far
>>> as Delhi, W. Bengal etc.
>>>
>>> The previous BD PM categorically stated there are none, and one time the
>>> Assam Govt. was able to identify 6 or 7 B'deshis for deportation.
>>> Heck, and if sections of people also believe that there are none, I guess
>>> there are no illegal B'deshis in Assam.
>>>
>>> The other thing about North Indians grabbing land in Assam is something very
>>> new. I have never heard about this (not that it matters) and something even
>>> close to it. If these are 'criminal' acts, then it quite possibly pervasive
>>> in other parts of India, and just making inroads into Assam.
>>>
>>> --Ram
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:18 PM, kamal deka <kjit.deka at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm! I haven't met any either. Next time we visit Assam, I will have to
>>>> make it point to meet one :-).<<<
>>>>
>>>> RS,
>>>> I am sure,there must be plenty of merry andrews in Assam as well as in
>>>> the Net.However,in terms of buffoonery,he or she will not be able to
>>>> match the one,who expects an illegal Bangladeshis to put on a ID tag
>>>> hanging around his neck with the purpose of divulging his nationality
>>>> :-)
>>>> KJD
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Uttam,
>>>>>
>>>>>> My problem is I cannot see anything in isolation. For me the events are
>>>> all
>>>>> connected; we can see the past; but cannot forecast the future: that
>>>>> sort
>>>>> of: -).
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree there is value in viewing issues in this manner. However, some
>>>>> issues (like the Israeli-Palestinian conflict or similar ones) there is
>>>>> absolutely no end. The time line can be shifted at will, and how one
>>>> wishes.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why, it is often a good idea to compartmentalize issues. One has
>>>> to
>>>>> start at some base line.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. I have not yet personally met a confirmed illegal Bangladeshi
>>>>> migrant ascertained to be one till date. Have you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm! I haven't met any either. Next time we visit Assam, I will have to
>>>>> make it point to meet one :-).
>>>>>
>>>>> But, there is the other possibility, since you have met one, and I
>>>> haven't
>>>>> either, then we can both be sure there aren't any illegal B'deshis in
>>>> Assam.
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. The recent killings near Dr. Dhaniram Baruah's Heart City have been
>>>>> attributed to land grabbing. Some business people from the >cowbelt want
>>>> a
>>>>> huge contiguous plot of land on south bank near Guwahati to build up a
>>>>> township.
>>>>>
>>>>> I remember this. We were at Guwahati around that time. The Dr. was in
>>>>> B'lore, and some miscreants destroyed a big portion of his hospital.
>>>>> So, you claim some Hindiwalls or the like were behind this. And this
>>>> proves
>>>>> what, Uttam? That these Hindiwallas are out to get us?
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no point in merely condemning the armed activity by a small
>>>>> section of the Assamese. Being irrational, these activities would surely
>>>>>> give you the opportunity to sneer at them. But that will rather stoke the
>>>>> fire than to douse it: do not you suggest we adhere to >'non->violence'?
>>>> You
>>>>> got to feel the fragile Assamese psyche in relation to its foundation in
>>>>> hinterland ( some people say colony within a >colony!) economics.( you
>>>> call
>>>>> it 'victim mentality' which is not very empathic...)
>>>>>
>>>>> Whether I empathize or not hardly matters, the 'Victim mentality' exists
>>>> &
>>>>> quite well for that matter. In fact, this is a favorite tool used by
>>>> armed
>>>>> rebellions all over the world, and maybe even countries.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Ram da
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:42 PM, uttam borthakur
>>>>> <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Ram Da,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My problem is I cannot see anything in isolation. For me the events are
>>>> all
>>>>>> connected; we can see the past; but cannot forecast the future: that
>>>> sort
>>>>>> of: -).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since I have to run this time, I just point out a few things for you to
>>>>>> just ponder: -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. I have not yet personally met a confirmed illegal Bangladeshi
>>>>>> migrant ascertained to be one till date. Have you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. The recent killings near Dr. Dhaniram Baruah's Heart City have been
>>>>>> attributed to land grabbing. Some business people from the cowbelt want
>>>> a
>>>>>> huge contiguous plot of land on south bank near Guwahati to build up a
>>>>>> township. In Chandrapur area, the Oxomiya henchmen of the cowbelt
>>>> business
>>>>>> houses are intimidating, killing, demolishing fences, etc. etc. in order
>>>> to
>>>>>> devour the land. Local resistance of villagers, who are getting
>>>> organised in
>>>>>> the fear of losing homestead, are somewhat delaying the process.
>>>> Political
>>>>>> bigwigs , Ministersrunning Assam are in cahoots. Policemen are involved.
>>>> All
>>>>>> these are daily news. Recently, I went on a survey. I was aghast to
>>>> learn
>>>>>> that annual periodic pattas are given to the settlers; they are now
>>>> given
>>>>>> the marching orders after giving them some money and a back dated
>>>> agreement;
>>>>>> on the basis of such agreement petty revenue for last fiver years are
>>>> paid
>>>>>> in the name of these political bigwigs, ministers, northerners,
>>>>>> journalists etc. who have occupied huge chunks of beautiful forest,
>>>> hill
>>>>>> lands with tremendous sight of the mighty Brahmaputra. If you pay 20
>>>> times
>>>>>> or so of the revenue you get a Myadi Patta. For the poor settlers it is
>>>> a
>>>>>> huge amount; for the carpetbaggers it is pittance. ( My take on this is
>>>> :
>>>>>> all colonial masters need local henchmen / dalals. The rich from the
>>>> cowbelt
>>>>>> will always need their paid goons to carry out their dirty works. But
>>>> 'root
>>>>>> cause' is the money and greed of the masters: the principal aspect of
>>>> the
>>>>>> contradiction:-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. For various historical reasons, the processs of Assamese Nation
>>>>>> formation (in the modern sense; I do not begin with Narakasura:-)) has
>>>> not
>>>>>> been very sturdy and this inherent weakness has led to knee-jerk
>>>> reactions
>>>>>> weakening the process rather than bolstering it. There is no point in
>>>>>> merely condemning the armed activity by a small section of the Assamese.
>>>>>> Being irrational, these activities would surely give you the opportunity
>>>> to
>>>>>> sneer at them. But that will rather stoke the fire than to douse it: do
>>>> not
>>>>>> you suggest we adhere to 'non-violence'? You got to feel the
>>>>>> fragile Assamese psyche in relation to its foundation in hinterland (
>>>> some
>>>>>> people say colony within a colony!) economics.( you call it 'victim
>>>>>> mentality' which is not very empathic...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's about it for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>>>>>>
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